Nicorette as appetite suppressant?

[Fireplug]

Has anyone ever used nicorette gum to help curb hunger while dieting? I'm not worried about the addictive aspects of nicotine—I don't have an addictive personality and I quit smoking years ago without any trouble—but I am wondering if there are any other health effects I should consider before using it.

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MODS I posted this in the chem section by accident, so I am re-posting here. Could you delete my post over in chem? Thx

[DR.BB]

I think Shelby Starnes has written about this or says it is useful in contest prep for appetite suppression. my apologies if it was someone else. I think former smokers who took nicotine gum over time did not experience serious side effects, although addiction is possible. One concern might be replacing one addiction (food) with another (nicotine) as the need for it may suggest there are food issues here. Not being judgmental but just mentioning. Dexter Jackson recommends sugar free Kool Aid for the same and it worked great for me and others in contest prep who I suggested it to.

[Fireplug]

Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. I am not worried about addition, as I had no problem quitting smoking over 10 years ago. Also, I only expect I would use the nicorette for a month or two. I have tried sugar free drinks (crystal light, green tea, diet soda) in the past, but they didn't help much.

[sassy69]

One of the earliest times I recall seeing any discussion of this specifically was mentioned by Anthony Roberts (probably on steroid.com) circa 2006.

RE: quick research on the topic of use of nicotine in general:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/30...d-weight-loss/

And here is the referenced article from a Vanderbuilt University researcher:
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psycho...y/nicotine.htm

And here is a study on use of nicotine gum as a stim:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/6/1442#FN2

[Provo82]

i believe i saw matt porter writing about this but i could be mistaken

[Provo82]

although i think black coffee or green tea is a safer alternative like ive seen shelby write about other things "whatever gets you through a shitstorm that is a contest prep" ( i am paraphrasing off memory)

[Professor X]

although i think black coffee or green tea is a safer alternative like ive seen shelby write about other things "whatever gets you through a shitstorm that is a contest prep" ( i am paraphrasing off memory)

Glad you wrote this. I would never recommend someone skip the green tea to try this first...

[Fireplug]

One of the earliest times I recall seeing any discussion of this specifically was mentioned by Anthony Roberts (probably on steroid.com) circa 2006.

RE: quick research on the topic of use of nicotine in general:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/30...d-weight-loss/

And here is the referenced article from a Vanderbuilt University researcher:
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psycho...y/nicotine.htm

And here is a study on use of nicotine gum as a stim:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/6/1442#FN2

These articles are great. Thank you! The Vanderbilt study doesn't seem to distinguish between nicotine and smoking (most of the data collected on nicotine effects was from smokers, not nicotine gum users). But the last article is a gold mine. I was interested to read that the lowest dose gum (1mg) had significantly better effects, especially when combined with caffeine, than high dose gum (2mg and 4mg). I was expecting the weight loss to be attributable to appetite suppression, but it seems the thermogenic effects are equally, if not more, important.

although i think black coffee or green tea is a safer alternative like ive seen shelby write about other things "whatever gets you through a shitstorm that is a contest prep" ( i am paraphrasing off memory)

I agree with you, and I definitely would not recommend anyone try the nicotine gum without trying caffeine first. Personally, though, coffee and tea don't blunt my hunger as well as the nicotine. Also, I didn't have any trouble when I quit smoking after several years (I smoked ½-1pack/day), so I don't think addiction will be an issue for me, but I recognize that some people find it much harder to quit.

[Provo82]

These articles are great. Thank you! The Vanderbilt study doesn't seem to distinguish between nicotine and smoking (most of the data collected on nicotine effects was from smokers, not nicotine gum users). But the last article is a gold mine. I was interested to read that the lowest dose gum (1mg) had significantly better effects, especially when combined with caffeine, than high dose gum (2mg and 4mg). I was expecting the weight loss to be attributable to appetite suppression, but it seems the thermogenic effects are equally, if not more, important.

I agree with you, and I definitely would not recommend anyone try the nicotine gum without trying caffeine first. Personally, though, coffee and tea don't blunt my hunger as well as the nicotine. Also, I didn't have any trouble when I quit smoking after several years (I smoked ½-1pack/day), so I don't think addiction will be an issue for me, but I recognize that some people find it much harder to quit.

yeah im not preaching against it at all, if it works and causes minimal to no harm to ya then rock on. whatever gets you to the finish line. i find that 5htp totally kills my appetite but instead of making me feel happy it makes me feel like crap but appetite wise it does the trick.

[Granite-Dawg]

I want to say I read something written by Dan Duchaine on this, but hell it could have been about nubain. LOL.

I know Dr.Mauro Dipasqualle has written about it also when implementing low carb diet.

[Fireplug]

I want to say I read something written by Dan Duchaine on this, but hell it could have been about nubain. LOL.

I know Dr.Mauro Dipasqualle has written about it also when implementing low carb diet.

Thanks. I'll look for the Mauro Dipasqualle piece. I'm doing the Palumbo diet, so it could be very relevant.

[Granite-Dawg]

It's in his book the anabolic diet I believe

[Young Gotti]

Nicotine works...i have experience, as an ex smoker i can attest that stuff like ecig's at high nicotine levels do have a slight stimulant experience and a slight effect on hunger...snuss works even better...but i've never used nicorette

basically i have seen reactions from nicotine but only in higher amounts, maybe it happens with less nicotine but on a much smaller scale