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    Default carbohydrate allocation

    no right or wrong answers here per say just trying to generate a discussion. answer for both cutting and gaining. if you were to consume 250 grams of carbs per day how would you spread those out for the best benefit and why? in my experience for both cutting and bulking i do better with smaller insulin spikes for both energy, look, digestion and feel so i prefer to spread them out over the course of the day minus the last meal. my post will be a little heavier than the rest by like 20-40 grams but generally speaking there somewhat equal with the last one of the day being a tad smaller. but nothing like some who will slam the 100 pre and 150 post and then thats it for the day. im not bashing this as ive seen guys get great results with it it just hasnt worked well on me. so like the first 5-6 meals for me. lets discuss
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    I would try carb back loading. I would eat four meals ,workout in afternoons, and eat a large portion of my carbs after training.

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    Hey man, long time lurker but I have been lifting and dieting naturally for over 15 years not for shows just bc I love lifting. I have average genetics and my body likes to be fat. The best results I have seen is with having all of my carbs with my last meal at night. I like it because I get no blood sugar fluctuations during the day and the carbs help me sleep at night. Being 31 it is the leanest I have been. i have tried every other way including just pre/post, every meal, and just meal one. All carbs at night is MUCH better. Again I am not on your level physically just my input.

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    hey guys if i wasnt clear im not specifically asking for advice for myself here as i have found what works well for me, and i do continue to experiment im just trying to generate discussion

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    I like to spread them out evenly-ish through out the day. Altough in terms of body composition its the total # taken in that really matters. Given my carb intake is quite high right now (400g) i have to spread them out over 6-7 meals. If intake were lower (Say 200g)i would keep them around training over 3-4 separate feedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn View Post
    I like to spread them out evenly-ish through out the day. Altough in terms of body composition its the total # taken in that really matters. Given my carb intake is quite high right now (400g) i have to spread them out over 6-7 meals. If intake were lower (Say 200g)i would keep them around training over 3-4 separate feedings.
    I am on the same page with you there for sure.

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    I like them spread out evenly as well... and like you said with a bit more pre and post

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    Just out of curiosity Phil, when you have a client using insulin how does that effect how you typically distribute carbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn View Post
    Just out of curiosity Phil, when you have a client using insulin how does that effect how you typically distribute carbs?
    That always depends on what type of slin and when taken. We talking log or humalin-r?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottt View Post
    I would try carb back loading. I would eat four meals ,workout in afternoons, and eat a large portion of my carbs after training.
    This...
    I train upon waking (Fasted)
    P+F after
    P+C as the day goes on, largest carb meal before bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    This...
    I train upon waking (Fasted)
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    P+C as the day goes on, largest carb meal before bed.
    Bob, What are your reasons for training fasted? I know that doing cardio fasted helps burn more fat because you don't have the carbs in your system. But, why would you train fasted? You would have more energy and be able to push harder if you weren't fasted. If I trained fasted I'd spiral down into a catabolic nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn View Post
    Just out of curiosity Phil, when you have a client using insulin how does that effect how you typically distribute carbs?
    as always it depends, if using humolog which they usually have them use higher intra carbs. or the two post workout meals. or i could sometimes have them hit it pre breakfast w a low fat high cho meal theres a few ways that work well depending on the person and the goals etc

    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster View Post
    That always depends on what type of slin and when taken. We talking log or humalin-r?
    exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
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    I train upon waking (Fasted)
    P+F after
    P+C as the day goes on, largest carb meal before bed.
    u know something if i was ever going to weight train fasted i could probably have enough energy if i ate big before bed. for me not ideal but i could see it being alot better than being fasted and only have a pf meal before bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinCouch View Post
    Bob, What are your reasons for training fasted? I know that doing cardio fasted helps burn more fat because you don't have the carbs in your system. But, why would you train fasted? You would have more energy and be able to push harder if you weren't fasted. If I trained fasted I'd spiral down into a catabolic nightmare.
    i agree with kevin it wouldnt feel right to me, but bob does improve every year. maybe he would improve more otherwise? i have no idea. but this is the interesting discussion i was trying to generate

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    To me it makes no difference. The body doesn't run on an hourly clock. It is more of a 24hr clock. This is why amino acids can be reserved for up to 24 hrs to complete the chain.

    Science will always say otherwise but read something like the Warrior Diet by Ori Hofmekler and you will think differently. We weren't always farmers. At one time we were all hunters/ gatherers and only ate once a day. Yet we were leaner and in better health. Just something to think about.

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