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    Default 16wk CYCLE - (Tren, Cyp, Mast, Prov etc) **************** [ HELP ] **************

    STATS:
    AGE: 25
    HEIGHT: 6'0
    WEIGHT: 205lbs
    BF: 8.5%



    WEEK 1 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D

    WEEK 2 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D

    WEEK 3 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D
    WEEK 4 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D
    WEEK 5 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 250iu's 2x wk
    WEEK 6 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 250iu's 2x wk
    WEEK 7 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 250iu's 2x wk
    WEEK 8 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 250iu's 2x wk
    WEEK 9 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D
    WEEK 10 -Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Tren A 50mg ED - CABER 0.5mg E3D - A-dex 0.5mg E0D

    NO PAUSE (JUST SWITCHING DRUGS)

    WEEK 11 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D
    WEEK 12 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D
    WEEK 13 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 500iu's 2x wk + Nolvadex 10mg
    WEEK 14 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 500iu's 2x wk + Nolvadex 10mg
    WEEK 15 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 1000iu's 3x wk + Nolvadex 20mg
    WEEK 16 - Test Cyp 300mg E4D - Masteron 50mg ED - Proviron 50mg ED - A-dex 0.5mg E0D - HCG 1000iu's 3x wk + Nolvadex 20mg

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    WEEK 17 - OFF

    WEEK 18 - OFF

    WEEK 19 - Nolvadex 40mg ED - Tribulus Terrestris (Natural Test Booster) - Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
    WEEK 20 - Nolvadex 20mg ED - Tribulus Terrestris (Natural Test Booster) - Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
    WEEK 21 - Nolvadex 20mg ED - Tribulus Terrestris (Natural Test Booster) - Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
    WEEK 22 - Nolvadex 10mg ED - Tribulus Terrestris (Natural Test Booster) - Aromasin 12.5mg EOD




    QUESTIONS:
    1- I shouldn't use Nolvadex as a PCT but CLOMID after TREN right? however does this still apply to my case..since I will switch the drugs from week 10 to 16 ?
    2- How much, how long and how should I use corectly Aromasin during the my PCT?
    3- Should I start with the Masteron-Proviron and end up the cycle with Tren A instead?




    Feel free to give me your personal opinion, advices etc. on this cycle.

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    What is your goal? dieting? size?

    Personally I wouldnt do mast and prov at the same time, they are too similar
    I would also run all 3 together test/tren/mast, that is one of the best pre contests combos out there. But I would not run it for 16 weeks.
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    GOAL is to put as much clean mass as possible while keeping a conditioned look (I dont intend to go over my current bf 8.5%)

    I will switch the CYP to PROP and do 50mg ED along with the other stuff instead of the CYP 300mg E4D.

    Is there a chance of having prolactin issues if I stop at week 10 and just switch the drugs or I Should just continue taking Caber 0.5mg 2xwk during the week 11 and 12?

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    You should not have prolactin issues as long as your estro is under control. One of the reasons why test/tren/mast all together work well.

    I wouldnt take any caber unless I had issues.

    the cyp to prop switch is up to you and how often you wanna pin, your already doing ace, and mast p then you might as well, but it is not needed. You can also do everything eod.
    ED pins get old quick and scare tissue can become an issue

    To put on some mass no matter what your taking your going to have to take in some more food which means maintaining that 8.5 can be tricky but not impossible. eat clean and monitor well
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    Thanks a lot for the advices Rich

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    a lot of stuff going on there that isnt needed. id run like rich said from day 1. id consider upping the dose around week 10. id run the hcg from day 1 at 500iu 2x per week. i would use both nolva and clomid for pct starting 2 weeks after the cycle. for the 2 weeks between the cycle and pct id run hcg at 1000iu eod. adex at whatever dose needed throughout.

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    I've done Tren and Masteron 3x weekly without issue but some find less sides at EOD. I'm 40lbs heavier and found 300mg of Tren weekly too high and plan to use 150mgs next time. I'm not one that gets Tren sides either. I would continue hCG through PCT to support the HPTA and you won't need mega doses. The inhibition attached to hCG is from not running an AI alongside it as it cause intra-testicular aromatase activity.
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    Dude if you want awesome tren get the paraject made by casablanca pharmaceutical. It's 100mg per 1ml, I'm on it as we speak and it's the best tren I've had its the same as the french parabolin back from the 90s, but I am getting some bad side effects sweating like a pig at night, sleeps not great but this stuff is awesome, guys if any of you can get it, get it, I swear it's that good

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