Do you think steroids is what's causing all the heart failures in the sport?

[Poker face Ace]

I find it funny that bb's who deny deny use the "I eat super clean and I should be fine" line. WOW
Steroids leads to heart disease, stop being delusional..

What can you do to prevent illness from juice, NOTHING IMO..
Opinions?

[scottt]

I live in the heart disease capital of the world and there aren't a lot of people on steroids. Low testosterone is dangerous to heart health. Taking more testosterone than Is possible naturally cannot be healthy for the body. The popular high carb high sugar high fat low protein low fiber diet of our country is deadly.

[Mac]

No, there are many other factors involved besides steroids.

You do know that it is the leading cause of death in the US? I am sure they're not all on steroids.

[Steve56]

I find it funny that bb's who deny deny use the "I eat super clean and I should be fine" line. WOW
Steroids leads to heart disease, stop being delusional..

What can you do to prevent illness from juice, NOTHING IMO..
Opinions?

I think you should take a stand bro.... Start with not posting here that will show em

[warthog]

I find it funny that bb's who deny deny use Opinions?

clinto.jpg

[Poker face Ace]

I see some good points/facts that food does cause heart disease too.

Steroids is a major culprit.
*Heart failure
*Kidney failure
*High BP
*Liver damage
These are just to name few.

I think Mike Mazz said it best.. If you do not have that caliber physique to make it, STAY AWAY..
If you want to cut your life short, go ahead, just seems life is too short & throw juice in there and again, like a heart attack waiting to happen.

[Granite-Dawg]

Is this part of your grand scheme to bring body building to the mainstream?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Poker face Ace]

It's to spread awareness to the general public.
If that means touching one life through my message, then I consider this to be a step in the right direction.

Is this part of your grand scheme to bring body building to the mainstream?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[warthog]

I see some good points/facts that food does cause heart disease too.

Steroids is a major culprit.
*Heart failure
*Kidney failure
*High BP
*Liver damage
These are just to name few.

I think Mike Mazz said it best.. If you do not have that caliber physique to make it, STAY AWAY..
If you want to cut your life short, go ahead, just seems life is too short & throw juice in there and again, like a heart attack waiting to happen.

I personally think it's a weight issue,it has to do with carrying or having carried a lot of mass which is probably why you find its mostly the bigger bodybuilders/wrestlers who seem to be hit with the heart/BP issues which could also be linked to the kidney issues. Flex,Miller,Nasser, Kovacs , Daz Ball,Youngblood , Artwood,Matarazzo,Tom Prince, JYD ,Yokozuna ,Hawk , Warrior, Savage ,Bulldog , Mr Perfect ,Rick Rude to name a few,all bigger guys ,all coronary or renal issues. Does'nt mean the smaller guys weren't using as much.I just thing when you go over a certain weight,whatever your body composition,you increase the risk

[Poker face Ace]

IMO I think any unneeded mass whether muscle/fat/water is just a recipe for disaster.

Shit, even training may increases the size of your heart which is scary..

I personally think it's a weight issue,it has to do with carrying or having carried a lot of mass which is probably why you find its mostly the bigger bodybuilders/wrestlers who seem to be hit with the heart/BP issues which could also be linked to the kidney issues. Flex,Miller,Nasser, Kovacs , Daz Ball,Youngblood , Artwood,Matarazzo,Tom Prince, JYD ,Yokozuna ,Hawk , Warrior, Savage ,Bulldog , Mr Perfect ,Rick Rude to name a few,all bigger guys ,all coronary or renal issues. Does'nt mean the smaller guys weren't using as much.I just thing when you go over a certain weight,whatever your body composition,you increase the risk

[Johnny Bravo]

[Joel's hamburger]

Heart disease, high blood pressure and diabetes are largely genentic. However people can put off or minimise issues/symptoms with their lifestyle choices

[Joel's hamburger]

Carrying around extra muscle mass usually leads to an enlarged heart. Even if you keep cardio-fit, I wonder if it's only delaying the inevitable premature death from cardiovascular disease.


There's only two ways to look at this. Live it up and realize you may be cutting twenty years off your lifespan if you stay on HRT or remain natural and stick to supplements.


Dying at fifty due to AAS and drug abuse isn't the way to go out.........not collapsing in front of your wife walking out of a hotel in Scottsdale.

[gabe_peterson]

In defense of responsible use, my father in law just move in with us. He's 83, and has been on testosterone almost 50 years. He takes 200mg a month, but he's got a biceps peek and doesn't workout, and still wants to go visit female friends for more than just friendship. He's very intelligent, with a great memory. If he's dying, then he's going out right way.

[gilbrt]

I personally think it's a weight issue,it has to do with carrying or having carried a lot of mass which is probably why you find its mostly the bigger bodybuilders/wrestlers who seem to be hit with the heart/BP issues which could also be linked to the kidney issues. Flex,Miller,Nasser, Kovacs , Daz Ball,Youngblood , Artwood,Matarazzo,Tom Prince, JYD ,Yokozuna ,Hawk , Warrior, Savage ,Bulldog , Mr Perfect ,Rick Rude to name a few,all bigger guys ,all coronary or renal issues. Does'nt mean the smaller guys weren't using as much.I just thing when you go over a certain weight,whatever your body composition,you increase the risk

I could be wrong but I was a huge art Atwood fan and I don't remember hearing about such problems with him .