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    Quote Originally Posted by Jude2 View Post
    The Surgeon should lose his practice. Unethical.
    Do you consider face-lifts, breast enlargement, nose-jobs, piercing, tattoos, hair transplants, or steroids, etc... unethical?
    All of these things are aimed at altering the natural body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    what does he care? hes still getting paid.
    What does he care?

    Hippocratic Oath much?

    Part of that oath often includes these words:

    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

    The surgeon might have chosen to send the girl to a psychologist rather than take her money. In fact, I'm pretty sure most reputable plastic surgeons require a clean bill of mental health before performing surgeries. Might have that wrong, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    What does he care?

    Hippocratic Oath much?

    Part of that oath often includes these words:
    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

    The surgeon might have chosen to send the girl to a psychologist rather than take her money. In fact, I'm pretty sure most reputable plastic surgeons require a clean bill of mental health before performing surgeries. Might have that wrong, though.
    Like any oath, it is purely symbolic. If it were a binding moral and legal stipulation of employment, most physicians and hospitals would be out of business. Come on, this is America, land of over-diagnosis and healthcare extortion. If "therapeutic nihilism" implies letting the body heal itself rather than using medicine, no for-profit MD or hospital system is down with that.
    Last edited by BigZero; 09-23-2014 at 10:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    What does he care?

    Hippocratic Oath much?
    He cares because he got paid
    he cares because he made the decision

    Your out look and his outlook may vary 100%, either way i dont care in the long run, it was not my decision. so you can call me a hypocrit all you want. Its not my body and it was just an article i posted.

    Means nothing to me in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    What does he care?

    Hippocratic Oath much?

    Part of that oath often includes these words:

    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

    The surgeon might have chosen to send the girl to a psychologist rather than take her money. In fact, I'm pretty sure most reputable plastic surgeons require a clean bill of mental health before performing surgeries. Might have that wrong, though.
    There is nothing in that oath that says you can't supply the world with more boobs.

    Dude is doing gawtdamned social service and may need a Nobel Peace prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    What does he care?

    Hippocratic Oath much?

    Part of that oath often includes these words:

    [INDENT][SIZE=4][FONT=Georgia]. In fact, I'm pretty sure most reputable plastic surgeons require a clean bill of mental health before performing surgeries. Might have that wrong, though.
    Nope. I can be licensed to do botox as a DDS in America. I won't exactly need a psych eval for each patient.

    It is up to the doctor's discretion if he notes true mental illness.

    The girl is an attention whore.

    If that makes her psychotic then so is everyone else on Twitter and Instagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    There is nothing in that oath that says you can't supply the world with more boobs.

    Dude is doing gawtdamned social service and may need a Nobel Peace prize.
    I don't care who you are, that right there is funny!

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    ^^^^ This.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigZero View Post
    Do you consider face-lifts, breast enlargement, nose-jobs, piercing, tattoos, hair transplants, or steroids, etc... unethical?
    All of these things are aimed at altering the natural body.
    A tattoo is one thing, but a full face tattoo is another. Any tattoo artist would certainly be thorough in his conversation with a client before inking a client's entire mug. Likewise a nose job is not adding a third breast. Entirely different conversation. Or not. Hey, like a third breast is the new facelift?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigZero View Post
    Like any oath, it is purely symbolic. If it were a binding moral and legal stipulation of employment, most physicians and hospitals would be out of business. Come on, this is America, land of over-diagnosis and healthcare extortion. If "therapeutic nihilism" implies letting the body heal itself rather than using medicine, no for-profit MD or hospital system is down with that.
    I get the profit angle, however part of that oath -- symbolic or not -- includes "understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife". Any ethical physician would have a psych profile or a thorough understanding of their patient before adding an extra boob. Again, or not. Let's just start adding selective amputation as a style choice.

    "My aesthetician said it would take years off my age."

    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    so you can call me a hypocrit all you want.
    I haven't called you anything. You commented "what does he care?" I chimed in with the Hippocratic Oath... an oath written by Hippocrates, the ancient Greek physician.

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    There is nothing in that oath that says you can't supply the world with more boobs.

    Dude is doing gawtdamned social service and may need a Nobel Peace prize.
    But that's a tough position to argue against. :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    Nope. I can be licensed to do botox as a DDS in America. I won't exactly need a psych eval for each patient.

    It is up to the doctor's discretion if he notes true mental illness.

    The girl is an attention whore.

    If that makes her psychotic then so is everyone else on Twitter and Instagram.
    That was my thought. The doctor's discretion in this case is in question. But I have that 1970's mentality, I guess.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jude2 View Post
    The Surgeon should lose his practice. Unethical.
    That's about the only thought I have on this as well.
    "The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy69 View Post
    That's about the only thought I have on this as well.
    That you. I wonder if the Dr sent her for a psych eval first? That would be the right thing to do. I train a few plastic surgeons and they told me they wouldn't perform a surgery like that, of course they care about their work and name, and don't need the money.

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    The snopes take on it:
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/bodymod...netridevil.asp

    Seems still not verified.
    "The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    Jasmine Tridevil had surgery to add a third breast because she does not want to date.Attachment 173967


    Selfie in front of a crime scene?
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    This is the cooolest thing I have ever seeen. !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdvsony View Post
    Selfie in front of a crime scene?
    lol "Psycho" movie shower curtain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    Your out look and his outlook may vary 100%, either way i dont care in the long run, it was not my decision. so you can call me a hypocrit all you want. Its not my body and it was just an article i posted.

    Means nothing to me in the end.
    Your reading comprehension is suffering and your estrogen may be rising.

    He didn't call you a hypocrite

    Hippocratic != hypocrite

    The doctor should not be allowed to practice and his license should be revoked.

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