Let Your Physique Speak

[Nancy]

Let Your Physique Speak

By Nancy Noreman

This is BodyBuilding... not the UFC, Boxing or the WWE.

The art of sculpting your physique with days and months of monotonous foods and years of lifting iron with various exercises. Missing birthdays, holidays and events with loved ones to showcase their personal perfection. Resulting in the unique and select few getting the ultimate experience of showcasing themselves as the best in the world at the Olympia. That is the pinnacle of success in this sport that we all adore.

Those that witness the event have spent their careers, their money and more than both of those - something more valuable, their precious time to witness this Olympia History. We entrust ourselves to those human beings on that stage to view their masterpieces that they unveil to us. Despite what these athlete's lives have sacrificed to get up there. Each and every one of these athletes has a personal story. Some with more hardships than others. Some overexpose their hardships and some don't share their personal stories at all.

We all have sacrificed to get there to witness this history, too. We have anticipations, we have predictions... We have favorites. Some of us have done a smaller version of what they do ... They are an extension of our passion -- They fuel us. They feed our love for this sport. We certainly don't mind a little entertainment. We definitely don't mind a little rivalry and we of course understand it, too. However, when you are the BEST IN THE WORLD ... you NEED and MUST let your PHYSIQUE speak for itself. If you want to speak out at a press conference - so be it. I personally do not agree - but that is not the sacred stage. On that stage, there is a decorum of how you are supposed to behave. How you are supposed to treat your fellow competitors. You are the GOLD-STANDARD when you are on the OLYMPIA stage. And especially if you expect to take that SANDOW. Let your PHYSIQUE Speak.

[Professor X]

Well, the problem with ONLY letting your physique speak is it gives the masses nothing much to talk about...and also prevents any deeper look into the PERSONALITIES involved.

This may be bodybuilding but I personally learned a lot from understanding THE MINDSET that allows someone to get really big.

That is how I was able to do it myself...not just by looking at pictures.

Gee, who would'a thought people could think for themselves and have their own opinions.


Is your own any more valuable?

[Nancy]

Professor X ....
If you are a BODYBUILDER - what does your personality have to do with your Physique?
Are you scored for it by the judges - Am I missing something in this sport?
Please explain??

As far as my above writing ... it is my view/perspective ( FitnessView ?? ) ... Obviously if I wrote it and put it out there, I am open to discussion.
However, I am not interested in arguing whether I am more valuable. I am no more valuable than anyone else. I may have a different approach at thinking and I offered it up. Your post comes off a bit antagonistic to me. Perhaps you meant it that way - perhaps not.

The one thing that I wonder when I read your post is ... I am just part of the Older Generation of Iron that is just not into the Antics like this ? Am I just Old School ... Or as Dave Palumbo will often say -- "We are turning into our parents" LOL ... I just like the more graceful approach. And that is MY OPINION speaking now, not my view.
I am OLD SCHOOL -- most definitely. Proudly.

[Maniacal]

LOL.

1) OP writes opinion post

2) Someone replies, justifiably disagreeing

3) OP gets butthurt and resorts to 'it is my view/perspective'; 'I am not interested in arguing...'

Takeaway - so as not to be self-contradictory, the OP's entire post should have been nothing but a photo of herself.

[Nancy]

LOL.

1) OP writes opinion post

2) Someone replies, justifiably disagreeing

3) OP gets butthurt and resorts to 'it is my view/perspective'; 'I am not interested in arguing...'

Takeaway - so as not to be self-contradictory, the OP's entire post should have been nothing but a photo of herself.

You are kidding - Right ?
Completely overlooking the most significant part of what I wrote ..
WHAT PART OF BODYBUILDING IS JUDGED BY PERSONALITY ?

[Mac]

How is the debacle at this year's Olympia to be compared with UFC, Boxing or the WWE?

I just don't get that part. Did Kai do a body-slam or dropkick on Phil. Did his ponytail inflict some damage?

The stage is going to end up like Planet Fitness with aggression alarms. I am old school too and this sport isn't made of pansies in thongs.

Now the MPD, I can see how it might be expected there.

[Maniacal]

How is the debacle at this year's Olympia to be compared with UFC, Boxing or the WWE?

I just don't get that part. Did Kai do a body-slam or dropkick on Phil. Did his ponytail inflict some damage?

The stage is going to end up like Planet Fitness with aggression alarms. I am old school too and this sport isn't made of pansies in thongs.

Now the MPD, I can see how it might be expected there.

Exactly - it's a non-story attempted to be made into one by those whose writing talents lend themselves to non-stories, ie, Duque.

[Maniacal]

You are kidding - Right ?
Completely overlooking the most significant part of what I wrote ..
WHAT PART OF BODYBUILDING IS JUDGED BY PERSONALITY ?

The WWE and UFC are hardly the sole sources of in the moment brawls, and heated moments.

There are countless examples of fights on the baseball field, on the court, etc, with a baseball field being just as revered to some as the Olympia stage is to others.

To infer that the Greene/Heath 'event' has tarnished the Sandow's legacy is asinine.

[Mac]

To infer that the Greene/Heath 'event' has tarnished the Sandow's legacy is asinine.

I am sure it tarnishes Kai's future attempts to win the Mr. O and many will feel like Nancy does.

Many more will think like you and I do.

[Nancy]

If you read the posts and references of others - they are using the UFC and WWE to defend what occurred ... That is where the comparison came from -- However, if you have not read them - then you would not know this ...

[Maniacal]

If you read the posts and references of others - they are using the UFC and WWE to defend what occurred ... That is where the comparison came from -- However, if you have not read them - then you would not know this ...

Your 'article' started off with the following: 'This is BodyBuilding ... Not the UFC, Boxing or the WWE.'

If you wanted us to ascribe those sentiments to others, and not you, then you should have credited others with those sentiments within your 'article'.

Otherwise, we will logically correlate those words with your position.

[Professor X]

Professor X ....
If you are a BODYBUILDER - what does your personality have to do with your Physique?

Everything. Image is...everything when it comes to true celebrity. It is why Micheal Jordan had posters on the walls of kids across America at one time...and not just videos replaying games of his.


Who he was is what made others go the same route.

It is what separates true celebrity from a 2D cut out.

[Curt James]

Professor X ....
If you are a BODYBUILDER - what does your personality have to do with your Physique?
Are you scored for it by the judges - Am I missing something in this sport?
Please explain??

What does personality have to do with physique? Look at Arnold versus Sergio as one example. The one Arnold story I've read more than once is of Schwarzenegger leaning in and saying to Sergio, something like, "I'm done if you are" during one of their legendary posedowns.

Sergio marched off the stage but Arnold stood fast as the crowd began to boo and assume that Sergio had thrown in the towel... conceding defeat to the Austrian challenger.

Trickery? Personality > Physique?

Likewise, I've heard one opinion put forth by one of those YouTube bodybuilding personalities where the man offered that Phil had juked Kai out of position during the contest.

"Kai and Dennis, switch! Kai and Dennis, switch!" at :30



Kai needed to be compared to Phil in order to gain points or get an honest look-see, but Phil refusing to give way or move over (and perhaps something Heath said to Greene?) resulted in Kai being moved away from the reigning Mr. Olympia.

Personality > Physique?

Kai would have been standing next to the champ if he had given way. Otoh, Kai may again been accused of being less aggressive than expected. Again, Lee Thompson praised Phil Heath the one year for, what he described as, OWNING the stage. Heath stepping over the line didn't result in a penalty but rather was seen as a statement of "This is my house!"

Personality might just have exceeded physique for Heath. That aggressiveness certainly didn't hurt him. I don't have the cite but it was an episode of Pro Bodybuilding Weekly where Thompson offered his praise or strong endorsement of Phil's behavior that year.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Albert Einstein

Kai did something different at this year's Olympia. His actions might not have been unanimously applauded, however they were not out of line in the context of Einstein's quote at least.

As far as my above writing ... it is my view/perspective ( FitnessView ?? ) ... Obviously if I wrote it and put it out there, I am open to discussion. (snip)

Discussion! Good, great!

I see the two perspectives:

1. Kai was out of line.
2. Kai's comments added drama and intrigue, etc. to the event.

It's my opinion that Kai's actions added a boost to the proceedings, but I respect your opinion all the same, Nancy.

[Professor X]

Professor X ....

The one thing that I wonder when I read your post is ... I am just part of the Older Generation of Iron that is just not into the Antics like this ? Am I just Old School ... Or as Dave Palumbo will often say -- "We are turning into our parents" LOL ... I just like the more graceful approach. And that is MY OPINION speaking now, not my view.
I am OLD SCHOOL -- most definitely. Proudly.

I disagree. Old school is the new school now. For the first time in recent history, parents now listen to the same music as their kids. Most of the platinum artists in Hip Hop are in their 30's and 40's.

This isn't about old school vs new school. It is about REALISTS vs DREAMERS.

What does Ronnie's personality have to do with him being a bodybuilder?

It is why I will put his videos in even now when cleaning the house...because I get a kick out of WHO he is, and not just what he is lifting.

Some of you saw one of the most restrained acts of pride and masculinity you could possibly see and you lost your shit over it. Those puckered ass cheeks of a thousand "fans" had a grapefruit squeezed up into it and couldn't deal with the taste.

If you want the sport to NOT be considered "uninteresting and homosexual" to those who watch it, it has to be about more than just the bodies on one day of the year.

It SHOULD be about those bodies all freaking year long. Let the videos follow them throughout the year. Let them build their own fan bases ALL YEAR LONG...and then compete.


Yeah, who you are matters.

I guess that sucks if there is nothing much to you but the weights.

[Curt James]

(snip) OP's entire post should have been nothing but a photo of herself.

I value Nancy's opinion and am glad to read what she posts. She's smart and expresses herself without calling the opposing viewpoint a troll, but, hey, I won't argue with anyone who enjoys photos of the OP!



Always a good thing.