Ebola virus taking over

[Poker face Ace]

This virus seems like it is going to take over. Even medically trained staff seem to get Ebola.

What's your take?

[Swiper]

I think if we'd abolish the fda there would be a cure. it takes over $1 Billion and 12 years to bring a drug to market thanks to the govt. what company is going to pay that much and wait that long for such little need for a drug to cure Ebola without making a profit? there's not enough people with it to make a profit or even make back the $1 billion it costs to even bring the drug to market.

[Poker face Ace]

Exactly and that explains why they stopped research on the drug. Funding for the drug was not even enough

I think if we'd abolish the fda there would be a cure. it takes over $1 Billion and 12 years to bring a drug to market thanks to the govt. what company is going to pay that much and wait that long for such little need for a drug to cure Ebola? there's not enough people with it to make a profit or even make back the $1 billion it costs to even bring the drug to market.

[HTW]

We need to anthrax Africa, then kill all Americans with any sort of symptom

[Curt James]

Uh... no, no, and no.

How dangerous is ebola, really, and will it spread to the U.S.

Oct. 7, 2014 10:52 a.m.

Huffington Post

SFI External Professor and Science Board Member*Lauren Ancel Meyers*breaks down the ebola outbreak, weighing its relative dangers and likelihood of runaway spread in the United States.

Estimates from the "tragic" outbreak in West Africa suggest that Ebola has a relatively low reproductive number of around 2, she says, meaning on average every infected person transmits the virus to two other people. Compared to other viruses, such as recent influenza viruses with reproductive numbers of 10 or higher, ebola is not particularly insidious from a transmission standpoint.

Combined with a relatively long incubation period of around 9 days, which gives public health authorities ample time to isolate people who have been in contact with people who are confirmed to have been infected, the mathematics suggest ebola can be contained…with one caveat, she says.

The proper containment strategies, accompanied by ample resources, are key to stopping the spread of ebola. In West Africa, authorities have not had the resources to effectively contain the outbreak. In today's world, which is highly interconnected due to air travel, it's likely ebola-infected individuals will appear in the U.S., and it's critical for U.S. authorities to act decisively to keep the disease contained.

From: http://www.santafe.edu/news/item/huf...how-dangerous/

Audio: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5924680

[HTW]

Uh... no, no, and no.

Audio: How dangerous is ebola, really, and will it spread to the U.S.

Oct. 7, 2014 10:52 a.m.

Huffington Post

SFI External Professor and Science Board Member*Lauren Ancel Meyers*breaks down the ebola outbreak, weighing its relative dangers and likelihood of runaway spread in the United States.

Estimates from the "tragic" outbreak in West Africa suggest that Ebola has a relatively low reproductive number of around 2, she says, meaning on average every infected person transmits the virus to two other people. Compared to other viruses, such as recent influenza viruses with reproductive numbers of 10 or higher, ebola is not particularly insidious from a transmission standpoint.

Combined with a relatively long incubation period of around 9 days, which gives public health authorities ample time to isolate people who have been in contact with people who are confirmed to have been infected, the mathematics suggest ebola can be contained…with one caveat, she says.

The proper containment strategies, accompanied by ample resources, are key to stopping the spread of ebola. In West Africa, authorities have not had the resources to effectively contain the outbreak. In today's world, which is highly interconnected due to air travel, it's likely ebola-infected individuals will appear in the U.S., and it's critical for U.S. authorities to act decisively to keep the disease contained.

From: http://www.santafe.edu/news/item/huf...how-dangerous/

Audio: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5924680

If ebola isn't that serious , why does it have a 50% survival rate. Some experts claim that every 3 to 4 weeks people with ebola will start to double.. And how did a health care woman in Texas catch ebola while using every precaution known to man? I think we are being very naive about this disease. At one time Aids started with only 1 person in America. Now there are millions. I believe we need to shut down travel to and from those African countries. Do you really think the Africans are going to squash this disease? The more people that go over there to help, the more that will come back with ebola.

[Swiper]

If ebola isn't that serious , why does it have a 50% survival rate. Some experts claim that every 3 to 4 weeks people with ebola will start to double.. And how did a health care woman in Texas catch ebola while using every precaution known to man? I think we are being very naive about this disease. At one time Aids started with only 1 person in America. Now there are millions. I believe we need to shut down travel to and from those African countries. Do you really think the Africans are going to squash this disease? The more people that go over there to help, they're that will come back with ebola.

hey don't knock people with aids, we need a good source of pharma gh lol.

[HTW]

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MONROVIA, Liberia — This morning Makasha Kroma shivered with fever. Her head still hurt; that hadn't gone away. And she was vomiting a lot.
That's why she'd ended up here, at a holding center where people suspected to have Ebola wait, in a dark classroom, for the results of their tests. These things — headache, fever, vomiting — are the early signs.
Ebola is transmitted through bodily fluids. It has no treatment, besides hydration, no cure, no proven vaccine. Since February, it's ravaged West Africa, infecting more than 2,000 people in four countries and killing more than 1,100.
Kroma came to the West Point holding center with her sister, her three children, a cousin named Bindu, and two other family members. They are all women, or girls — most caregivers in Liberia are — and they washed Kroma's clothes, fed her rice, wiped down her body, and cleaned up her vomit with a rag and some chlorine.
Those are the kinds of chores that give you Ebola. And the girls had no gloves. All the gloves the Ministry of Health brought this place when it opened yesterday, all 150 of them, were gone by the middle of the night.
That's when three people escaped. Because Sam Tarplah and his staff didn't have any gloves, they couldn't restrain the patients who wanted to flee. They could only plead.
"We begged them, told them people are coming tomorrow to help you," Tarplah said. "But there was no way we could fight them."
Two escaped by climbing the back wall, according to health care workers in a clinic next door. Another, a woman with five children, simply took off, Tarplah said.
Tarplah is a registered nurse who's worked in health care in Liberia since 1989; he opened this holding center for the Ministry of Health on Thursday, and had eight patients. On Friday, before the escape, he had 29.
West Point is becoming a hot spot in a hot spot in the biggest Ebola outbreak in history. It's an informal community, a "slum," with no running water or toilets. People can live seven or more to a single dwelling, and the density is dangerous: A positive Ebola patient disappearing into the maze of metal shacks can be a public health horror story.
Today, things got even worse.


A mob descended on the center at around 5:30 p.m., chanting, "No Ebola in West Point! No Ebola in West Point!" They stormed the front gate and pushed into the holding center. They stole the few gloves someone had donated this morning, and the chlorine sprayers used to disinfect the bodies of those who die here, all the while hollering that Ebola is a hoax.
They ransacked the protective suits, the goggles, the masks. They destroyed part of Tarplah's car as he was fleeing the crowd.
Jemimah Kargbo, a health care worker at a clinic next door, said they took mattresses and bedding, utensils and plastic chairs.
"Everybody left with their own thing," she said. "What are they carrying to their homes? They are carrying their deaths."
She said the police showed up but the crowd intimidated them.
"The police were there but they couldn't contain them. They started threatening the police, so the police just looked at them," she said.
And then mob left with all of the patients.
"They said, 'The president says you have Ebola, but you don't have Ebola, you have malaria. Get up and go out!'" Kargbo said.
"What's going to happen when they come to our clinic? In two to five days?" Kargbo asked, referencing the early period when newly infected patients begin to show their first symptoms. "We're going to turn them around" and send them to a different hospital, she said.
Kargbo said the staff at the clinic have no protective gear. They were already afraid about treating possible Ebola patients, and the riot means more infections as escaped sick patients infect their families, and as looters sleep on mattresses where the Ebola-infected have died.
"We can't let them turn around and come back and infect us," Kargbo said. "I have four sons. I am a single mother. I'm not going to let that happen to my children. I'm not going to let anybody infect me, to die of the disease and leave my children."
Tolbert Nyenswah, the assistant minister of health, told BuzzFeed on Thursday they intend to quarantine all of West Point, a serious measure that would require meticulous planning and heavy security.
Nyenswah could not be reached for comment on today's riot or its effect on the quarantine plan.
Bindu, the 22-year-old who had been quarantined in the center while caring for her dying cousin, told BuzzFeed this morning that the family wouldn't leave before Kroma got her results. They wanted to follow the rules and stay as safe as possible.
But that didn't mean they wanted to be stuck in there — no cell phone, no electricity, no visitors, surrounded by strangers vomiting and collapsing and dying on the floor in front of them.
"We just want to go home," she said through a window.
Now nobody knows where she, or the dying Kroma, has gone.

[HTW]

^^^^^this is why Ebola will not be stopped over there. Not enough help and supplies, people do not believe Ebola is killing them so they destroy a treatment center ??? Smart people .

[Curt James]

If ebola isn't that serious , why does it have a 50% survival rate. Some experts claim that every 3 to 4 weeks people with ebola will start to double.. And how did a health care woman in Texas catch ebola while using every precaution known to man? I think we are being very naive about this disease. At one time Aids started with only 1 person in America. Now there are millions. I believe we need to shut down travel to and from those African countries. Do you really think the Africans are going to squash this disease? The more people that go over there to help, the more that will come back with ebola.

A Texas health care worker who*tested positive for the Ebola virus*after treating Thomas Eric Duncan in Dallas suggests the hospital breached protocol, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on CBS'*Face the Nation.

"Clearly there was a breach in protocol," Frieden said in*an interview reported by theDallas Morning News. "We know from many years of experience that it's possible to care for patients with Ebola safely, without risk to health care workers, but we also know that it's hard and that even a single breach can result in contamination."

Frieden speculated that the breach in protocol may have occurred as the health care worker removed his or her contaminated gear. The Ebola virus can only be spread through direct contact with an infected person's bodily fluids.

From: http://m.theweek.com/speedreads/inde...ch-in-protocol

[Curt James]

^^^^^this is why Ebola will not be stopped over there. Not enough help and supplies, people do not believe Ebola is killing them so they destroy a treatment center ??? Smart people .

Agreed. Panic and ignorance.

[Curt James]

But what if you find yourself on an airplane, or in a hospital waiting room, with a symptomatic carrier of Ebola? What if you shake hands with an infected person whose hygiene is not perfect? Couldn't you contract it that way?

Theoretically, yes, Adalja acknowledges, but here he quickly notes something that most Americans don't realize: Lassa fever, another horrifying hemorrhagic disease that kills about 5,000 people in West Africa every year, has been imported into the United States by travelers seven times in recent years, with no known case of transmission.

The most recent case: 2004 in New Jersey. "Ebola will find the Unites States just as inhospitable as lassa fever," Adalja predicted.

More @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...la-in-the-u-s/

[Poker face Ace]

If these numbers who are infected keep rising, we have something MUCH worse than serious diseases such as aids imo.

But what if you find yourself on an airplane, or in a hospital waiting room, with a symptomatic carrier of Ebola? What if you shake hands with an infected person whose hygiene is not perfect? Couldn't you contract it that way?

Theoretically, yes, Adalja acknowledges, but here he quickly notes something that most Americans don't realize: Lassa fever, another horrifying hemorrhagic disease that kills about 5,000 people in West Africa every year, has been imported into the United States by travelers seven times in recent years, with no known case of transmission.

The most recent case: 2004 in New Jersey. "Ebola will find the Unites States just as inhospitable as lassa fever," Adalja predicted.

More @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...la-in-the-u-s/

[Poker face Ace]

Agreed. I wouldn't want to go down there if I were a doc. HECK NO, esp. after the one doc who got it..

^^^^^this is why Ebola will not be stopped over there. Not enough help and supplies, people do not believe Ebola is killing them so they destroy a treatment center ??? Smart people .

[Ibarramedia]

If the people dealing with Ebola carriers practiced the universal precautions like they should, then there would be no breach of protocol. Hence, no other infections.