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    Default Dr. G.'s Test and Tren for HRT?

    I'm currently running 105 mgs of both Test and Tren for my cruise.
    This is the HRT protocol prefered by Dr. G.

    If you've never heard of him there's 29 pages of his stuff here.

    http://www.gear-depot.com/index.php?...&limitstart=20

    He used to do research for both Shering and Organon so the guys no flake.

    Now he has a private HRT practice. This guys #1 concern is health while doing this, not massive muscles. Most of his clients are not bodybuilders.

    He does explain his prefered methods and compounds for blasting in there though.

    In fact there's really a lot of good stuff about other things too. like site enhancement peptide, etc.
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    My favorite quote from him.

    In a perfect world an HRT patient would inject 15mg of test acetate or propionate daily but who the hell really wants to do that for HRT
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    I did some skimming and I definitely am going to revisit this later when I have more time. this definitely looks like some interesting material

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    Good post. Thanks for the info.

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    Good post Im gonna read this when I get home

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    Another good quote.

    I think that for the purpose of increasing libido and sexual performance the combo of 100/100 test/mast will be hard to compete with. But for keeping gains and staying in positive nitrogen balance 100/100 of test/tren works out very nicely for cruising.
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    His opinion on orals?

    As far as usage of oral AAS i have very strong opinion about them overall. At Schering we worked with oral Primobolan and other oral AAS and overall i see no reason to use them.
    Anavar is a very "safe" oral AAS at the dosages it was meant to be used medically which is way way below what is used in the BB scene. But if you use 40mg or more daily, there is no question that you will bump your liver levels within 4 weeks.
    Will those levels go down? Most likely they will. But the gains you make on oral AAS also disappear much quicker compared to injectable forms of AAS.
    I am not quite sure and cant give you a medical reason why, but in most of my observation i saw patients that quickly returned to baseline within a few weeks of stoppage.
    So when you combine, costs, side effects and overall long term effectiveness, i really just don't see a reason for their use when injectables are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Another good quote.

    I think that for the purpose of increasing libido and sexual performance the combo of 100/100 test/mast will be hard to compete with. But for keeping gains and staying in positive nitrogen balance 100/100 of test/tren works out very nicely for cruising.
    can you show exactly which article discussed that i must have missed it

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    #8 I believe
    As you know they aren't really articles
    Just q&a's
    And unfortunately the question is never posted
    They are somewhere. I think on Profesional Muscle
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    Yea it is 8
    And if I'm not mistaken later he mentions that most libido problems are more mental than physical
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    2 weeks in on the ed hrt protocol besides the pain in the ass of administering daily I have to say I feel a ton better doing it this way......

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    Cool. I actually switched to EOD myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Another good quote.

    I think that for the purpose of increasing libido and sexual performance the combo of 100/100 test/mast will be hard to compete with. But for keeping gains and staying in positive nitrogen balance 100/100 of test/tren works out very nicely for cruising.
    the test tren combo for me works way better than mast for the sexual stuff too.

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    The tren combo works fine for me too
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    try ed and see if u feel any better even if its just for 2 weeks. especially if you access to test acetate. the number one thing I notice from the ed injections is a lot less water retention.

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