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    Default T dose, training and weight loss questions

    All, this is my first post, so please be patient with me...I have looked at many sites and read a lot of different research...yet, I still have some questions which I hope this forum will help me resolve...ley me start by describing my current situation..first and foremost, I am no bodybuilder (obvious when you see my stats) thanks in advance.

    male/261bs - dropped 40lbs in last year
    49 years young
    low T - initially 200 range

    So when originally diagnosed with Low T I was experiencing the normal symptoms, fatigue, weight gain and low libido. Doctor started me on Axiron, immediately experienced positive results. T levels rose with 1 pump under each arm 1x per day, then dropped off. Eventually doing 2 pumps under each arm every day with varying results (400-1200, eventually 250's). Endo doc then suggested weekly injections .5ml or 100mg per week of Test Cyp....Instantly felt fatigue, libido drop....first blood test was right after workout at 10am... T level 750. Told doc something was wrong, no way was my T at 750...i felt great on axiron around 800 and like a king at 1100....Assumed it was high (750 and feeling terrible) because I tested right after workout (on 6th day after injection). Retested blood again 3 weeks after above mentioned test, T level 460. Tested early in the morning prior to working out - again on 6th day. Had sicussion with doc and she bumped my TRT to .5ml 100mg every 4 days.....so lets assume this is around 200mg per week. (really 200mg per 8 days)....injected this morning (Wed) and will inject again Saturday with 22g needle. So thats where I am at...now for my questions....and thanks again for being patient with me.

    200mgs is a decent dose from what I have read...although 100mgs seems like the average for TRT...Im assuming here. I go to the gym 5 days per week. Up until yesterday I would spend 1.5 hours lifting and bullshitting....I was following a Paleo style way of eating...I have dropped 40 lbs in the past year...I have not done a whole lot of cardio. However, I am now going to scale back the amount of time I was lifting (too many injuries and unnecessary to spend that much time lifting) and increase my cardio - guru told me to walk at 3.8 for 45 minutes...after each workout so I dont burn too much muscle....So my questions to this forum are...

    1) Does 200mgs per week seem like a decent dose as TRT? I definitely dont think i need more, possibly less?
    2) If I increase light cardio workout to 30-45 mins per day 5 days per week, would i lose weight?
    3) should I maintain my Paleo way of eating, chicken, fish, eggs, 1 ribe eye per week, Almonds, feta cheese, tomatoes, olive oil and vinegar, avocados, bacon, butter, almost all carbs from veggies?
    4) as my T is prescription, when would you suggest I do bloodwork, doc suggests that I go 2 days into "cycle" since my cycle is 4 days...also suggests I go in morning...however, i have a feeling if I go at these times my numbers will be hiigh again and she will cut me back - which may not be a great thing...
    5) doc is obviously worried about Estrogen, Red Blood Counts, etc..the following stats are from my most recent bw...these are the only numbers that are "out of range"...Should I be concerned about any of these numbers and have a further discussion with my endo? please keep in mind these numbers were based on lower TRT...now my medication has almost doubled per week...I plan to retest in 3 weeks ..based on feedback i get from this forum as to which day in the cycle...

    HEMATOCRIT 51.9 H should be 38.5-50 %
    RDW 15.1 H should be 11-15 %
    FSH <0.7 L should be 1.6-8 MIU/ML
    LH,PEDIATRICS <0.2 L should be 1.5-9.3 MIU/ML
    ESTRADIOL 40 H should be <OR = 39 PG/ML




    Thanks In advance for any feedback you provide, BB

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    If the diet isn't broken don't fix it. The T dose looks good and I would test during the low point of the trough. Sub-Q injections might serve you better with your dosing schedule. I would also recommend donating blood for multiple reasons but mostly to get your hemocrit down. Ask for an anti-aromitase (AI), ie Arimidex or Aromasin. If that E2 level is on 100mg T weekly then you're body isn't efficient at using testosterone and is converting it at higher rate comparitively. My E levels don't creep that high until I'm injecting 200+ weekly with no AI.
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