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    Quote Originally Posted by pmow View Post
    As I do myself a throw back, I'm watching his "one step closer" dvd, I can't help but be mesmerized by how massive he is.

    I mean how does one get up to 293 and lean?

    Is is it solely genetics? And I hate to think it's purely relied on drugs. I know drugs are involved but I would assume he probably isn't doing any more than any one else.

    Is it the fact that he consitently eats 400 grams of protein and 1000 grams of carbs and just surrounders himself to the life style?

    im 5'6 at 205 lbs at 8.5% bf.

    i want to be 275 at 8.5% (or whatever the equivalent would be to 300lbs for my height)

    what is stopping me?

    i am just amazed that some one can get this big. What is the big contributor?
    i havent read any responses to your post. i bet it went in a negative direction at some point haha. anyway. on to the question.

    i think genetics get more blame for lack of commitment on all levels than it should. in some small way sure but the same guys that say this are usually quick to say its nuts to be on 200mcg of clen ed, 2-3g of tren ew, 20+iu of gh ed, hundreds of ius of slin per day, etc, etc. when you find a way to make yourself recover better, process more food, and lift heavier weights the muscles will get bigger. when things stall its because at least part of the equation is lacking. obsession and crazyness are crucial haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    i havent read any responses to your post. i bet it went in a negative direction at some point haha. anyway. on to the question.

    i think genetics get more blame for lack of commitment on all levels than it should. in some small way sure but the same guys that say this are usually quick to say its nuts to be on 200mcg of clen ed, 2-3g of tren ew, 20+iu of gh ed, hundreds of ius of slin per day, etc, etc. when you find a way to make yourself recover better, process more food, and lift heavier weights the muscles will get bigger. when things stall its because at least part of the equation is lacking. obsession and crazyness are crucial haha
    You forgot "and a lot of cash". With those figures you'd certainly need it. See at 1:34

    Last edited by warthog; 01-24-2015 at 10:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor X View Post
    Anyone who thinks you just keep injecting more steroids until you hit a certain body weight is off.

    It also isn't about thinking that if you just keep doing the same thing you will reach a genetic peak eventually.

    You have to force your body to grow that much and how you approach that is everything.

    Being able to spend all day only focused on weights, food and sleep has something to do with it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Wow, glad to see you guys know his secret.
    Are you telling me Jay's size at his peak, was not due to genetics, multi-gram weekly doses of gear, high dose slin, high dose GH, and eating like a madman?

    I would love to hear you deny this.
    Fill up the syringe...

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