Do Cardio Zones have real significance for a bodybuilder

[davidcua]

your incorrect

Than please explain me why? I'm very open minded

[Young Gotti]

Than please explain me why? I'm very open minded

read my first post in this thread

liss cardio has actually shown to atrophy muscle

[davidcua]

read my first post in this thread

liss cardio has actually shown to atrophy muscle

I've read it so what ?

Low intensity won't atrophy you leg muscles if you train them (squat/leg press, lying leg curl etc etc ). On the contrary, additional intense work such as HIT might even hinder growth if the legs aren't enough rested and the HIT too long etc

[Young Gotti]

I've read it so what ?

Low intensity won't atrophy you leg muscles if you train them (squat/leg press, lying leg curl etc etc ). On the contrary, additional intense work such as HIT might even hinder growth if the legs aren't enough rested and the HIT too long etc

again thats incorrect, it's actually the opposite, hiit cardio may grow additional muscle on your legs...you should listen to the layne norton podcast about hiit cardio vs liss cardio, it's very good

[Young Gotti]

Do the type of cardio that you have a personal preference for. Whichever one fires you up the most because you’ll most likely work harder at it. HIIT is quicker, proves to be more effective for fat loss, creates metabolic changes, and helps with muscle retention but not everybody can do HIIT. LISS is safer, but takes twice as long to accomplish similar things and it still has its place for fat loss in moderate amounts, from a pure calorie burning standpoint (meaning only to burn calories & not make changes to your metabolism). My intentions weren’t to favor one form of cardio and bash the other, even though it sounded like that. My intent was to educate and notify you that times have changed and science is proving some good stuff with HIIT cardio. But at the end of the day it’s up to you on what kind of cardio suits you best.

Author: Chris Martinez

[Sunnyday]

Is this how COG gets so shredded?

Her problem is not training or cardio

Training and cardio are the least of COG's problems.

[davidcua]

again thats incorrect, it's actually the opposite, hiit cardio may grow additional muscle on your legs...you should listen to the layne norton podcast about hiit cardio vs liss cardio, it's very good

Man …
HIT for growing leg of Athlete. the way to go
HIT to grow leg of the bodybuilder (Very UNLIKELY, unless the guy is seriously undertrained)
HIT to burn body fat and preserve optimally the bodybuilder muscle while dieting. Not the way to go
Low intensity to grow athlete leg. Definitely not.
Low intensity to grow Bodybuilder leg. Not
Low intensity to burn body fat properly without burning the muscle (atrophy it) . The way to go

Well I hope you understand the distinction now. If not, I'm either a bad teacher or you ... well.

[Young Gotti]

Man …
HIT for growing leg of Athlete. the way to go
HIT to grow leg of the bodybuilder (Very UNLIKELY, unless the guy is seriously undertrained)
HIT to burn body fat and preserve optimally the bodybuilder muscle while dieting. Not the way to go
Low intensity to grow athlete leg. Definitely not.
Low intensity to grow Bodybuilder leg. Not
Low intensity to burn body fat properly without burning the muscle (atrophy it) . The way to go

Well I hope you understand the distinction now. If not, I'm either a bad teacher or you ... well.

Yeah that doesn't make sense because it's not accurate information

[Young Gotti]

https://youtu.be/SLgNRg3mh6s

[Rocky3]

I honestly don't know if you are serious or trolling.

- "While at rest" isn't the same as : "doing cardio just after weightraining".
- if you know how to control the intensity, your body wont need to rely on muscle to get you moving but on body fat => Seriously, think about what you've said twice. Do you really think that it's the optimal way. Do you really think that the body will not use amino acids readily available from muscle breakdown, instead of using an harder way i.e. "fat oxidation" .

If you have no choice but to do you cardio right after your weightraining. Than I guess do it after, it's not optimal though.
If you have the time to do it in the morning on an empty stomach, at a slow and steady pace. Do it at that moment for obvious reasons :
- Your glycemia is as its lowest point of the day
- glycogen too
- And there is not amino acids that just came from you muscle (muscle break down, micro tear/trauma etc) readily available. So you body will use the best option possible : fat oxidation for energy.

But Hey Rocky do what you wanna do.

your body uses both bodyfat and muscle glycogen for energy...the more demanding your physical activity the more the body relies on glycogen (weiths liftuing, sprinting, etc), the less demanding your physical activity (light jogging, fast walking, elliptical at medium level) the more the body relies on bodyfat. It is not that difficult to understand.
When your glycogen storages are somewhat depleted-like after training-if you engage in medium intensity cardio, your body will be more prone to use up body fat to keep moving

[Rocky3]

Do the type of cardio that you have a personal preference for. Whichever one fires you up the most because you’ll most likely work harder at it. HIIT is quicker, proves to be more effective for fat loss, creates metabolic changes, and helps with muscle retention but not everybody can do HIIT. LISS is safer, but takes twice as long to accomplish similar things and it still has its place for fat loss in moderate amounts, from a pure calorie burning standpoint (meaning only to burn calories & not make changes to your metabolism). My intentions weren’t to favor one form of cardio and bash the other, even though it sounded like that. My intent was to educate and notify you that times have changed and science is proving some good stuff with HIIT cardio. But at the end of the day it’s up to you on what kind of cardio suits you best.

Author: Chris Martinez

do HIIT cardio after trashing quads? no thanks. Plus I enjoy my 30-45 minutes of cardio, it gives me a special time to reflect on the workout sesion we just went through, plan the next day in my mind and also it helps get rid of lactic acid build up. Me and COG also enjoy doing longer LISS cardio sessions because we get to watch the news on the tv screens they have at our gym, and make fun of people walking in

[Mac]

we get to watch the news on the tv screens they have at our gym, and make fun of people walking in

This must be a hilarious sight. The blind watching the blind!

Do you watch the news at the gym because you do not have a TV at home?

[Rocky3]

This must be a hilarious sight. The blind watching the blind!

Do you watch the news at the gym because you do not have a TV at home?

we get our news on the internet at home, but at the gym we get to watch our local-local news

[davidcua]

Yeah that doesn't make sense because it's not accurate information

[davidcua]

your body uses both bodyfat and muscle glycogen for energy...the more demanding your physical activity the more the body relies on glycogen (weiths liftuing, sprinting, etc), the less demanding your physical activity (light jogging, fast walking, elliptical at medium level) the more the body relies on bodyfat. It is not that difficult to understand.
When your glycogen storages are somewhat depleted-like after training-if you engage in medium intensity cardio, your body will be more prone to use up body fat to keep moving