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    I'll just add a little to this - some BB'er specific info.

    Bring up the notion of a C-FLEX (this is a trade name, but they'll know what you mean) machine, which automatically adjusts the airway pressure depending upon what's needed. There are a couple different models and I'd suggest trying them both to see which works the best for you. You can bring in the entire unit or just the data card and the respiratory therapist, doc, PA, whomever can examine the data on apneas, vibratory snoring, etc.

    Thing is, the C-PAP is set at a pressure based on your test. If you're gaining and losing weight all the time, getting ready for shows, you'd have to get a new sleep study done each time to get the right pressure (or know the right technician to do it without the normally necessary prescription or even to give you the manual so you can do it at home). This is a nice way to get more money out of you from the medical system, in a way. Its kind of like (but not as dangerous) making glucometers only available to diabetics if they go into see the Doc and this way they are reliant upon the Doc (and must pay for a visit) for insulin adjustment.

    The C-FLEX adjusts according to your needs. When I'm pre-contest, apnea is much less than when I'm at the peak of an off-season.

    The reason to try both machines (I can look up the brand names for anyone who wants them - just blanking right now), is that they use different algorithms to determine the pressure depending upon your breathing pattern, air flow, etc. One of the models didn't work for shit for me (backed up by the data for 2-3 nights of sleep) and another one worked like a charm. This may have just been me or maybe on machine's manufacturers did a better job in developing the algorithm. (I can imagine that breathing patterns might be different for a guy with a 20 inch neck and 8% BF vs. a guy with a 20 inch neck and 28% BF, thus leading to inapplicable software if it was based on research with only high body fat subjects...)

    -Scott

    P.S. Tim!!! - we met at the Jr. Nat's. (I'm the guy with the long hair and beard - we talked a bit on Sunday in the hotel lobby. Thanks again for those kudos, my man.) My GF, Gina (short, blond) talked to you when I was on stage. She, like Andrea is a HUGE fan of the C-PAP (C-FLEX). BIG TIME. LOL

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    I use the machine. Stops my snoring and my wife is very happy. It does take a bit to get used to but after about a week you should be comfortable with it on.
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    Mine is an REMstar Auto which is a flex type and it works great. I haven't tried any other, but it seems this would be the best for most people that have weight fluctuations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B7emm View Post
    it was so bad with me my wife bought a box fan and put it next to her side of the bed to drown me out. lol . but just because you snore doesn't mean you have sleep apneia. they monitor how much you stop breathing in your sleep. i was like 70 times every hour and a half.
    Ive stopped breathing long enough to turn a slight shade of blue/grey is what my brother said a few weeks ago. If he hadnt woke me Id be somewhere where supplements REALLY dont matter.

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    I snore real bad at least I've been told.Lol. I can't use that machine though, because I sleep on my stomach. I read a few posts here saying big guys snore. I guess that also means if you are muscular too and not just fat.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Loco View Post
    Ive stopped breathing long enough to turn a slight shade of blue/grey is what my brother said a few weeks ago. If he hadnt woke me Id be somewhere where supplements REALLY dont matter.
    thats scary. alot of people die from that every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibarramedia View Post
    I snore real bad at least I've been told.Lol. I can't use that machine though, because I sleep on my stomach. I read a few posts here saying big guys snore. I guess that also means if you are muscular too and not just fat.....
    that is true.. it also has some to do with the size of your tissues in your throat uvula, tonsils, adenoids etc.. in my case any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B7emm View Post
    thats scary. alot of people die from that every year.
    Not afraid of it.

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    I have to use one, it has made a big difference, before I used to fall asleep in the car and would never feel rested no matter how much I slept, now i feel much better. I did not have a snoring problem when I was younger so I imagine getting bigger is what caused it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekim Rizvani View Post
    I have to use one, it has made a big difference, before I used to fall asleep in the car and would never feel rested no matter how much I slept, now i feel much better. I did not have a snoring problem when I was younger so I imagine getting bigger is what caused it
    Same here. I never had it when I was younger. It became quite telling when on a family reunion-christmas vacation in the ski condo at snowshoe, my entire family said I snored through the walls. Those upstairs even said they could hear me from the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Loco View Post
    Ive stopped breathing long enough to turn a slight shade of blue/grey is what my brother said a few weeks ago. If he hadnt woke me Id be somewhere where supplements REALLY dont matter.
    That's scary shit... my babies used C-pap for a few days cause they were preemies... I can't imagine trying to sleep with that contraption on though it looks very cumbersome and uncomfortable... but still better than not waking up!

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    woops I posted twice..

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    Yeah it looks very sexy the women love it

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    I am 35 and also have severe sleep apnea (59 apneatic episodes per hour). I am recently diagnosed and just wanted to share my story so that people can understand how severe of a situation sleep apnea can be.
    I am not overweight. I am currently 5'9" and 175 lbs (BMI has that as overweight, but I'm an athlete with a decent amount of muscle), and a lifetime competitive swimmer who has swam at a high enough level to qualify for Olympic Trials. I have always been nutritionally conscious and have exercised my entire life. I have always slept well, and have never felt tired during the day. My wife has said that I snore from time to time, but never really complained. In short, I did not present any symptoms of sleep apnea and certainly didn't fit the profile of the typical sleep apnea patient.
    In May of this year I went in to the Doctor for a check up and found my blood pressure to be 240/135. I was immediately referred to a BP specialist (who was also a kidney specialist), and he sent me in for a sleep study. As a result of the high blood pressure (caused by years of undiagnosed sleep apnea), I had lost 75% of my kidney function and was told to prepare for dialysis and kidney transplant. I started CPAP therapy in July, and now love it. It's kind of a pain in the ass to have the hose and mask sitting by my bed, but I have zero complaints about the quality of sleep. My BP has improved with the help of medicine, but I hope that over time the CPAP will allow me to come off some if not all of the medication. I have had to drastically change my diet to try and improve kidney function, and will probably have to continue a low sodium diet (less than 1500 mg/day) for the rest of my life. I have regained some kidney function and am no longer looking at dialysis/transplant in the near future, but it is something that is still a very real possibility in the next few decades.
    All because of undiagnosed sleep apnea.

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