Third cycle help

[zedk360]

My first two cycles were test only. I want to add in deca to this cycle to hopefully alleviate some joint pain. I have read different articles that say stanazol may help keep some of the sides from the deca down by competing for progesterone receptors. I have 4 vials of stanazol, is it worth adding them to this cycle, and if so how?

My cycle:
week 1- 1000mg test enth. wk/.5 adex eod
week 2-16 500mg test enth. wk/300mg deca wk/ .5 adex eod
I will use heavys pct protocol as I have the last 2 cycles with no problems

My info: 43yrs, 5'9", 198lb, 12%bf

Thanks in advance for any input.

[bad rad]

Even on Deca, I have severe joint pain from Winstrol.

[zedk360]

Even on Deca, I have severe joint pain from Winstrol.

Kinda thought the same. I don't have access to any caber. Just trying to limit any sides from the deca.

[telkins92]

Definitely worth adding some prami or caber of looking to combat the deca sides. IMO not the stack to run the Winstrol with. Simple is better. Run a low dose dbol or anadrol if you're looking to out on a few lbs. There are plenty of reliable peptide companies with research liquids in order to do your "research" with prami or caber and IMO and experience I won't run tren or deca without prami. The deca sides don't really hit me til about 6-8 weeks in anyhow but I still run about 1mg of prami dosed .5mg twice a week. Makes all the difference for me. Other than that cycle looks good less is better.

[misterb]

so lets just use sciencer here, no bro stuff.

Deca has an extremely long ester so if this is what you have or think you need it will need to be started and possible front loaded for maximum affect. therapeutic levels are as low as 200 a week
when people talk about sides from Deca i doubt these are on cycle but more the effects of an extremely long ester that does not clear as one believes they're " off"
using caber or other anti prolactins without blood work is ill advised, if you wish to have some in the safe / locker thats fine. we see plenty of science showing 19-nors cant in most can not create prolactin issues without the presence of very elevated E2, so use the AI med cause at 100 mg test a week you're going to need it . if i had a choice id recommend NPP, it will start working fast as apposed to deca with an about 14 day half life and it will flush out fast , about equal to ther test youre using
dont add winstrol simply to combat deca, thats not logical. what it will do is lower shbg a good thing making more test avalible but its harsh on the liver and you cant run it full cycle..unless you like liver tumors and stuff just use proviron instead and love it
keep the winny for the last 6 weeks thats where it shines IMO

[zedk360]

Appreciate all the advice. I think I will get some caber to keep on hand and do some labs to keep an eye on e2 levels. And possibly use the winny to help tighten things up the las 6 weeks.

[RichDC2]

you do not need to double the dose the first week that will not do anything for you.
at that dose you will not need any prami if you keep your estro in check, dont add things to make up for things.
the winny will not do anything for you in this cycle. i would save it for a time when dieting.
keep your diet clean

[zedk360]

you do not need to double the dose the first week that will not do anything for you.
at that dose you will not need any prami if you keep your estro in check, dont add things to make up for things.
the winny will not do anything for you in this cycle. i would save it for a time when dieting.
keep your diet clean

with the half life of the test would why wouldn't I preload in order to keep my levels even at 500mgs?

[RichDC2]

becuase your not getting anything in any quicker it still takes the same amount of time to reach and drop levels . weather its 500 or 1,000 its just a larger dose there is no preloading
on top of which you blood levels will not be stable for that time, because your lowering your dose in half.
you know when you get medication that says if you miss dont double your dose..............

[zedk360]

becuase your not getting anything in any quicker it still takes the same amount of time to reach and drop levels . weather its 500 or 1,000 its just a larger dose there is no preloading
on top of which you blood levels will not be stable for that time, because your lowering your dose in half.
you know when you get medication that says if you miss dont double your dose..............

Thanks for all the input. I guess I'm overthinking things. I'll keep it simple and see how it goes....