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    Default List the things we can do to raise awareness if we do take hormones

    I'm tired of reading about these casualties so what awareness can we at least spread? Name some please.

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    Negative Side Effects - none

    Positive Side Effects - increased muscle mass, fat loss, enhanced libido, harder and more frequent erections...any need to continue? LOL
    Last edited by Joe Pietaro; 08-25-2015 at 08:44 PM.

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    zits, absess, roid rage to the point u throw a carbo force bottle at the person riding on your a@@

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker face Ace View Post
    zits, absess, roid rage to the point u throw a carbo force bottle at the person riding on your a@@
    ok that's the positive now what's the negative ?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pietaro View Post
    Negative Side Effects - none

    Positive Side Effects - increased muscle mass, fat loss, enhanced libido, harder and more frequent erections...any need to continue? LOL
    Seems like the bodies are stacking up, though.

    Unrelated to abuse of concoctions?

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    Neither of the 2 most recent were caused by steroid but i'd say a lot in the past few years could be attributed to diuretics being misused and the rebound.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Seems like the bodies are stacking up, though.

    Unrelated to abuse of concoctions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbo89 View Post
    Neither of the 2 most recent were caused by steroid but i'd say a lot in the past few years could be attributed to diuretics being misused and the rebound.
    So sport-related deaths rather than drug-related in those instances.

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    if old timers who used steroids came clean about their use of aas and also said ive also got a clean bill of health

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    Baito's death was not caused by steroids.

    Wegener's Granulomatosis

    Definition

    Wegener's granulomatosis is a very rare disease that affects many different organs and systems of the body. It mainly attacks the respiratory system (sinuses, nose, windpipe,and the lungs) and the kidneys. One of the main features of the disease is an inflammation of the blood vessels (vasculitis). The inflammation narrows the blood vessels andreduces the blood flow to the affected organs. This destroys tissues and damages vital organs.
    Description

    Wegener's granulomatosis (WG) is not a contagious disease, and there is no evidence to suggest that it is hereditary either. It is a very rare disease, affecting only 1 in every30,000-50,000 people. About 500 new cases are diagnosed each year. The disease can occur at any age, however, it mostly affects individuals in their 30s and 40s. It affectsmales and females equally. Ninety seven percent of all patients are Caucasian, 2% are Black and 1% are of another race.
    Causes and symptoms

    No viral, bacterial, or other causative agent has yet been identified for WG. It is thought to be an autoimmune disease, meaning that the body's immune system attacks "itself,"that is, the body's own tissues.
    Whenever there is an infection in the body, proteins called antibodies, which are capable of attacking the infectious agent, are formed in the blood. In WG, the antibodies that areformed are directed against the white blood cells of the immune system. They are therefore called "auto-antibodies" (antibodies against one's own body cells). These auto-antibodies bind to the blood cells and forms clumps known as immune complexes. The complexes accumulate in the tissues and the blood vessels, leading to a tumor-like(granulomatous) inflammation of the blood vessels. This slows down the blood flow to the different organs and tissues, causing damage and resulting in the many symptoms ofWG.
    The symptoms of WG, and the severity of the symptoms, vary from patient to patient. One of the most common features is a chronic runny nose and other cold-like symptomsthat do not respond to standard treatment. The cold symptoms gradually worsen and could lead to sinusitis (inflammation of the sinuses), middle ear infection (otitis media),cough, coughing of blood, and inflammation of the lung (pleuritis and pneumonia). Other symptoms include fever, fatigue, loss of appetite, weight loss, joint pain, night sweats,change in urine color, and weakness.
    Kidney (renal) disease is the most serious development of WG. Patients who do not have renal disease are said to have "Limited Wegener's."
    Diagnosis

    Early diagnosis is critical for the most effective treatment of the disease. However, there are no specific laboratory tests for WG. Blood tests are used to rule out other causes ofthe symptoms and to determine which organs are affected. The blood tests often show anemia (low red cell count) and high white blood cell counts. If the kidneys are involved,red blood cells are seen in the urine when viewed under a microscope. Also, blood tests aimed at measuring kidney function may show abnormalities.
    Chest x rays are used to determine if the lungs are involved. Computed tomography scans (CT scans) of sinuses and lungs, and kidney biopsy, are also important tools used indiagnosing WG.
    A specific type of antibody called anti-neutrophil cytoplasmic antibody (ANCA) is seen in the blood of about 90% of the patients with WG. The ANCA are a group of antibodiesdirected against the individual's own white blood cells (namely, the neutrophils). These anti-neutrophil cytoplasmic antibodies are also found in other inflammatory conditions anddiseases (such as HIV infection). Though the ANCA test is useful, it cannot be used by itself to make a diagnosis of WG. However, the amount of ANCA in the blood can bemeasured and correlates well with the progression of the disease. When there is a relapse or a flare-up, the ANCA levels go up. Levels decrease when the disease is controlled byappropriate treatment.
    Since there are no definitive laboratory tests for WG, and the initial symptoms of the disease are not very specific, it takes five-15 months, on an average, to make a diagnosis ofWG.
    Treatment

    Cyclophosphamide (Cytoxan) which is an anticancer drug, and corticosteroids, such as prednisone, are used to treat WG. These are powerful drugs that suppress the immunesystem. However, they are also very toxic and can have serious side effects. The patient has to be watched carefully by the doctors and the dosage of the drugs has to beadjusted, if needed.
    Since the patient's immune system is suppressed while on these drugs, he or she is at an increased risk for contracting infections. Vaccinations for flu and pneumonia arerecommended.
    Prognosis

    In the past, approximately 80% of the patients with untreated WG died within a year of contracting the disease and 90% died within two years. Today, however, the prognosis hasbeen dramatically improved. With appropriate treatment, patients can survive for much longer periods and lead relatively normal lives.
    Approximately 50% of the patients with WG will have a relapse of the disease. This generally happens within two years of stopping the medication, but can occur at any pointeither during treatment or after stopping treatment. Therefore, it is extremely important that patients continue to see their doctors regularly even after stopping the medications.
    Prevention

    At present, there are no preventive measures known for Wegener's granulomatosis.
    Key terms

    Auto-antibodies — An antibody that is produced in, and reacts with, an antigen in the same person or animal.
    Autoimmune disease — Any disease which causes tissue injury due to an immunological reaction of antibodies against the patient's own tissues.
    Granulomatous — Resembling a tumor made of granular material.
    Immune complexes — Clusters or aggregates of antigen and antibody bound together.
    Vasculitis — Inflammation of the walls of the blood vessels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    Seems like the bodies are stacking up, though.

    Unrelated to abuse of concoctions?
    HRT and moderate amounts of AAS are different from the crazy amounts and stacking them with insulin. Not saying that everything is safe, but the serious incidents usually can be pointed to abusing the amounts.

    Not sure if you're also referring to pro wrestlers that die frequently, but those guys mix juice with pain killers and "recreational" drugs and the latter is usually the culprit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pietaro View Post
    HRT and moderate amounts of AAS are different from the crazy amounts and stacking them with insulin. Not saying that everything is safe, but the serious incidents usually can be pointed to abusing the amounts.

    Not sure if you're also referring to pro wrestlers that die frequently, but those guys mix juice with pain killers and "recreational" drugs and the latter is usually the culprit.
    No, I wasn't. And I'm pro drugs so far as prohibition doesn't do anyone any good.

    Legalization and education would only help athletes and regular joes be safer or at least be availed of access to legitimate pharmaceuticals and the proper long-term studies on use of the various substances or products.

    Anyway, my comments were only meant to state it's difficult to ignore the seemingly increased numbers of dead athletes. Without legitimate studies, who can say what causes what or know the dangers involved with those insane amounts and various combinations?

    Again, definitely pro drug. Prohibition and incarceration serve no useful purpose. But neither does more dead athletes. :-/

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    I recently experienced significant loss of libido after approximately one month after my last PH cycle.

    I was pleasantly surprised...

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    whatever happened to gainz related to proper nutrition and training? Exercise was supposed to improve the quality of life and add years to one's life

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