Who is this loser?

[BrickHead]

And perhaps some of us dislike Kali is because he told his viewers on You Tube that if it weren't for his erotic videos (which I don't see as such a a big deal, someone showing off his nude body) and lifting, he would be "robbin' yo mama, robbin' yo sista".

Yeah, some of us might not take so kindly when are informed that if some guy couldn't earn a few bucks from showing off his body--perhaps earning money through another means was beyond him, especially considering that it's not as if those videos rewarded him much money--he would be robbing out sisters and mothers.

[BrickHead]

And in the end it doesn't matter who has oil-enhanced arms or not, despite that one "worked" for his arms. There are no damn rules in gaining popularity or money in bodybuilding-related endeavors. Rich has more fame and reward from this than Kali, whether you think it's deserved or not, or that you think Kali SHOULD be more popular and prosperous. Rich earned much money long before he was asked to sign on with Mutant and his subsequent successes. Despite his oil-enhanced arms and botox, he had foresight and realize that day trading and real estate pay more dividends in money and life than robbing people and skin flicks.

[Professor X]

And perhaps some of us dislike Kali is because he told his viewers on You Tube that if it weren't for his erotic videos (which I don't see as such a a big deal, someone showing off his nude body) and lifting, he would be "robbin' yo mama, robbin' yo sista".

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What erotic videos?

You cheer on a guy who is no doubt getting more younger lifters to use steroids before they even build a base of mass.

You boo the guy who went to jail, got out and literally created his own business and is NOT promoting early drug use.

You pick and choose what you want to stand against ....and logic is nowhere to be found.

[Professor X]

Rich has more fame and reward from this than Kali, .

How do you know this? You are sure Rich is making more money?

[BrickHead]

What erotic videos?

You cheer on a guy who is no doubt getting more younger lifters to use steroids before they even build a base of mass.

You boo the guy who went to jail, got out and literally created his own business and is NOT promoting early drug use.

You pick and choose what you want to stand against ....and logic is nowhere to be found.

1) If I recall correctly, Rich has urged in his videos for people to stay away from roids altogether or to wait considerable time to do them.

2) I'll boo a grown adult who said that if he didn't have his bills paid by a specific legal means only (there are jobs available besides video work) that he would be "robbin' yo mamma, robbin' yo sista". Other than that, I wouldn't be a fan of Kali simply because I don't find him entertaining. Actually, though I find the robbery talk distasteful, I think in all seriousness Kali at this current time is not a bad guy and was saying that for effect and out of frustration because people gave him a hard time for his video work with the name Chuck Basher.

I think he recognized the error of his ways, and yeah, sometimes he is amusing and funny. I happen to like Rich more.

2) What I and many others find entertaining is not always centered around logic. I am not logging on to Rich's channel for a sermon.

3) I get some of your points, as they are plausible.

[doodoomaniacs]

Piana is a cool dude but he did let that dude punk him...Piana should've let Viking fight him

[Musclepapa John]

I think you are missing some of the points Brickhead is making and you two are actually more on the same page than you realize as you sound offended by Piana's popularity considering his drug protocol, acknowledgement of it publicly and physique.

Brickhead seems to me to be noting that you can have a large following even a low culture oriented one without regard to morals, virtues, humanitarian activities, etc. You are likewise both right about Kali as regardless of his criminal record he is a good guy and no more un-natural than Piana. Kail gets public points for humanitarianism, but marked down by many in popular culture because they don't like excons.

Everybody breaks some law and likely most everyday even if it be running a red light. Yet, regardless of whether it fair or not if you are labeled an excon and even use that as part of your marketing as Kali does some people won't like it. And yes he is black. A black Rich Piana I don't think would fly

I used to do genre oriented media work with guns, knives, swords and other weapons and got away from it as many people just don't like that sort of thing. Piana is popular regardless of whether he can be held up as an example of all that's righteous and virtuous or rather a parade of fuck this, fuck that bits of low culture.

Its just the way it is. Look at it like a historian rather than preacher or politician and try to keep the cortisol levels down while focusing on it. IMHO.

Again, please explain the logic of focusing on who is an ex con when both have done illegal activities that we know of publicly?

" Kali is an ex-con, so that's why people call him a criminal."

Yeah....and the other guys does criminal activity and he is NOT a criminal?

That's some awesome thinking you got going on.

[Professor X]

. And yes he is black. A black Rich Piana I don't think would fly

Lol.
I'm trying to get brick to acknowledge that. It's the piece people keep leaving out as if it isn't one of the main reasons for the double standard.

[Curt James]

Hey, as long as you understand how wrong that analogy was and the point you tried to build from it.

Do you understand that you never seem to want an actual conversation but seemingly only look to prove that the other guy is wrong. lol

[Curt James]

Lol.
I'm trying to get brick to acknowledge that. It's the piece people keep leaving out as if it isn't one of the main reasons for the double standard.

[Tu Holmes]

Again, please explain the logic of focusing on who is an ex con when both have done illegal activities that we know of publicly?

" Kali is an ex-con, so that's why people call him a criminal."

Yeah....and the other guys does criminal activity and he is NOT a criminal?

That's some awesome thinking you got going on.

Well, the Ex-Con means he was "convicted", and therefore a criminal.

While the other person may do some thing "illegal", he is not convicted of a crime, hence not an Ex-Con and not a criminal.

He is an "alleged" criminal.

[Puma]

Personally have no interest in following either. Have seen Piana as a co-star on a number of videos I had interest in but as a natty he would have less relevant information for me even beyond the guys on the juice. I guess his 5% thing is good marketing towards individuality if I understand the meaning behind it but I wouldn't want to implant a shark fin in my back just to set myself apart from the crowd.

[Curt James]

The shark fin? ^^^ I bet someone has actually done that. O.o

[Professor X]

Do you understand that you never seem to want an actual conversation but seemingly only look to prove that the other guy is wrong. lol

My bad. Curt, please explain the relationship or context of Helen Keller vs Kim Kardashian...

You know...since my goal wasn't to show the wrong analogy but, as you say, to simply prove the other guy wrong.

Was he wrong or right?

[Professor X]

Well, the Ex-Con means he was "convicted", and therefore a criminal.

While the other person may do some thing "illegal", he is not convicted of a crime, hence not an Ex-Con and not a criminal.

He is an "alleged" criminal.

Yes, and anyone against ex cons would logically also be against people who allegedly commit crimes..

But thanks for the info. I feel like I'm on judge Mathis....