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    Default Please help guys‼️‼️‼️

    I'm currently 215lbs 20%bf 5.9". I'm eating 3500 cals and 300 carbs a day.

    What should I do to be the biggest possible by summer but I still want to loose a decent amount of bf. I'm not sure do I keep bulking or start cutting.


    im thinking about cutting until I'm around 12-15bf and then going with test tren and Adrol.


    What do you experts think???
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    You need more carbs. 300 is a medium day for me and I'm only 190.

    If you do use Tren then you'll need even more carbs. Cycle your carbs depending on what you are training each day. That will help with the BF.
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    Should u cut down to around 15% bf before starting my cycle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riptide732 View Post
    Should u cut down to around 15% bf before starting my cycle ?
    I don't see why you would need to.
    Tren will actually help with the BF.
    And all three will help gain muscle which will speed up your metabolism.
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    Diet down first your bf is to high the tren will spare the muscle you ha e whole dieting. Get rid of the br down to the 10% range first learn how to eat correctly and What works for you. You will respond to everything much better with a lower bf. Tren alone is not that magical to strip off bf imo you still need to diet correctly and cardio
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichDC2 View Post
    Diet down first your bf is to high the tren will spare the muscle you ha e whole dieting. Get rid of the br down to the 10% range first learn how to eat correctly and What works for you. You will respond to everything much better with a lower bf. Tren alone is not that magical to strip off bf imo you still need to diet correctly and cardio
    Yes it is!!!

    Op, I'm just kidding.
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    If youre 20% BF then you need to bring the bodyfat down first and foremost. Pushing anymore is just going to make you fatter because your insulin sensitivity is not going to be good at that BF level. No compound is going to make a difference at that point.

    Your plan of cutting down then growing is much better than trying to do it from the point you are at. This is just me going off of the info you gave though since there are no pics and you didnt really mention if you were on or off currently.
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    20% bf is fat fella

    i'd suggest you drop down to a cruise dose and cut down to 10-12%

    save your drugs, and blast when lean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    I don't see why you would need to.
    Tren will actually help with the BF.
    And all three will help gain muscle which will speed up your metabolism.
    wot?

    have you ever run tren? tren is not this magical unicorn, that builds crazy muscle and sheds fat.

    I have gotten fat on tren.

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