Streaming Shows

**bigmikecox** · 02-04-2016, 10:53 AM

I dont have any insider information on cost, but how much money does it cost to stream a show like the NYP or Tampa show?

**Joe Pietaro** · 02-04-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by bigmikecox

I dont have any insider information on cost, but how much money does it cost to stream a show like the NYP or Tampa show?

Depending on what the promoter would charge someone to have the rights to do so, it can even be done using a basic platform such as UStream for basically nothing. I'm talking one-camera angle and then you can hook up mics for commentary. A basic subscription to their service is pretty cheap and they even have a free program.

**Curt James** · 02-04-2016, 04:00 PM

X2, Joe.

Mike, I remember paying for a Phoenix show years back... the one Melvin Anthony won?* It was twenty bucks, iirc.

*Googled. It was the IFBB Phoenix Pro in 2010.

**bigmikecox** · 02-05-2016, 01:24 PM

So then why dont more promoters do this? Id pay $20-30 to see a show?

**warthog** · 02-05-2016, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by bigmikecox

So then why dont more promoters do this? Id pay $20-30 to see a show?

Palumbo has gone on air and called on all interested parties(promoters) to hook up with him so he could show them his idea of how they could stream shows but I can only wonder if anyone took up his offer

**Curt James** · 02-05-2016, 02:06 PM

^^^ Johnny working the camera/producing, etc., and Dave & Co. providing play by play? Why promoters don't take him up on that offer boggles my mind.

Originally Posted by bigmikecox

So then why dont more promoters do this? Id pay $20-30 to see a show?

Probably just the hassle. Would $20-30 PPV cut into their $60 at the door? Doubtful, but maybe some would stay home and watch it for less rather than drive three hours to attend the show.

I'd guess that people from several states away (who would never attend the show) would buy the stream and add to the promoter's income rather than taking away.

**JohnnyStyles** · 02-05-2016, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

^^^ Johnny working the camera/producing, etc., and Dave & Co. providing play by play? Why promoters don't take him up on that offer boggles my mind.

Probably just the hassle. Would $20-30 PPV cut into their $60 at the door? Doubtful, but maybe some would stay home and watch it for less rather than drive three hours to attend the show.

I'd guess that people from several states away (who would never attend the show) would buy the stream and add to the promoter's income rather than taking away.

We would LOVE TO do this!!!

We've done EUROPA Shows....LIVE>...4 hours straight!!! a 3 camera LIVE Show with Dave and Chris commenting

**bigmikecox** · 02-05-2016, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by warthog

Palumbo has gone on air and called on all interested parties(promoters) to hook up with him so he could show them his idea of how they could stream shows but I can only wonder if anyone took up his offer

In all honesty, there is too many egos and too many grudges between MD, Rx and Flex. In a perfect world, it would be great and im sure all parties would make money

**Joe Pietaro** · 02-05-2016, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

^^^ Johnny working the camera/producing, etc., and Dave & Co. providing play by play? Why promoters don't take him up on that offer boggles my mind.

Probably just the hassle. Would $20-30 PPV cut into their $60 at the door? Doubtful, but maybe some would stay home and watch it for less rather than drive three hours to attend the show.

I'd guess that people from several states away (who would never attend the show) would buy the stream and add to the promoter's income rather than taking away.

Maybe I'm way off base, but I am in total disagreement with the theory that streaming shows would kill ticket sales, especially at the local amateur level.

The 'gate' will still be there for people that have family, friends, clients, etc. competing.

Who would spend a Saturday night watching hour after hour of bikini and board shorts-sporting strangers? I venture to say not to many and that would not make or break a promoter's profit.

**Geoff Roberts** · 02-05-2016, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by bigmikecox

In all honesty, there is too many egos and too many grudges between MD, Rx and Flex. In a perfect world, it would be great and im sure all parties would make money

150% correct. If we all worked together, it wouldn't cost us shit, because the promoters would have no choice in the matter, unless they wanted zero coverage of any kind. Everyone is against everyone else in this industry, its like junior fucking high.

**bigmikecox** · 02-05-2016, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Pietaro

Maybe I'm way off base, but I am in total disagreement with the theory that streaming shows would kill ticket sales, especially at the local amateur level.

The 'gate' will still be there for people that have family, friends, clients, etc. competing.

Who would spend a Saturday night watching hour after hour of bikini and board shorts-sporting strangers? I venture to say not to many and that would not make our break a promoter's profit.

THIS!!! Bikini girls bring EVERYONE to watch them! Family and friends will still come to local shows to see them.

If the NYP was streamed do you really think it still wouldnt sell out?

**bigmikecox** · 02-05-2016, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Geoff Roberts

150% correct. If we all worked together, it wouldn't cost us shit, because the promoters would have no choice in the matter, unless they wanted zero coverage of any kind. Everyone is against everyone else in this industry, its like junior fucking high.

Bro its petty bullshit!

**Curt James** · 02-05-2016, 06:06 PM

Petty is the new __________.

I got nuthin.

Look, I think there just needs to be an explanation of some kind. Like someone to say/show "Here is the dough that is being left on the table."

I agree that it wouldn't hurt ticket sales OR that ticket sales across the U.S. or worldwide would make up for those audience members who chose the PPV over driving to the arena/venue.

It's a no-brainer.

I'd attend every show at $20 a pop. Hell, promoters could band together and sell season tickets. $200 for all the shows? Maybe have a souvenir t-shirt (designed by the mayor of bodybuilding?) as part of the premium package!

#DOTHIS #MAKEITHAPPEN #SEASONTICKETHOLDER #PPVNOW

**Joe Pietaro** · 02-05-2016, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by bigmikecox

In all honesty, there is too many egos and too many grudges between MD, Rx and Flex. In a perfect world, it would be great and im sure all parties would make money

There's always the presence of a rivalry between competitors and all forms of media practice it in one form or another. But the bodybuilding industry seems to do detrimental things to spite one another with the common goal of "pleasing daddy."