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    Default article: 10 Most Genetically Gifted Bodybuilders in History

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    interesting article, not sure I agree with all of it but it's a decent discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    interesting article, not sure I agree with all of it but it's a decent discussion
    Thank you. What would you change?

    I wanted to keep the list to bodybuilders who have competed. I'm sure somebody will mention Vic Richards.
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    Holy shit I agree with your entire article.

    I'd just change around a few placings based on Flex Wheeler's myostatin mutation found in BALCO's 1998 tests. Here's an excerpt from Victor Conte's letter regarding the study and Flex Wheeler's form of the rarest myostatin mutation called Exon 2:


    "This simply means Flex has a much larger number of muscle fibers compared to the other subjects or the normal population. We believe that these are the very first myostatin mutation findings in humans and the results of this landmark study have already been submitted for publication. Flex was also found to have a very unusual type of the IGF-1 gene. In fact, Flex was the only participant in the study that did not have a "match." All of the other extreme responders had at least three other subjects with a matching IGF-1 gene. Based upon Flex's very unique genetic profile, we plan to expeditiously publish a scientific paper that reveals his complete genotype in specific detail. The publication of his remarkable genetic data should generate an enormous amount of media exposure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclePoppins View Post
    Holy shit I agree with your entire article.

    I'd just change around a few placings based on Flex Wheeler's myostatin mutation found in BALCO's 1998 tests. Here's an excerpt from Victor Conte's letter regarding the study and Flex Wheeler's form of the rarest myostatin mutation called Exon 2:


    "This simply means Flex has a much larger number of muscle fibers compared to the other subjects or the normal population. We believe that these are the very first myostatin mutation findings in humans and the results of this landmark study have already been submitted for publication. Flex was also found to have a very unusual type of the IGF-1 gene. In fact, Flex was the only participant in the study that did not have a "match." All of the other extreme responders had at least three other subjects with a matching IGF-1 gene. Based upon Flex's very unique genetic profile, we plan to expeditiously publish a scientific paper that reveals his complete genotype in specific detail. The publication of his remarkable genetic data should generate an enormous amount of media exposure."
    Very good point.

    I sometimes wonder what Flex's genetic mutations actually allowed him to get away with behind closed doors. He obviously trained very hard, or at least guys like Chris Cormier claim that he did. You would think with such a mutation, his genetics would be more obvious than they are.
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    Charles Glass claims his Cormier/Wheeler/Dillet clan trained "hard", and I believe it to an extent, but then you see Cormier at Temple in Birmingham rolling around and throwing up in the back alley after being trained by Dorian. Maybe 1998/99/00/01/02/03/04/05 look different if Flex wasn't in California and had normal kidney function.

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    I'll go old school with votes for Arnold, Robby Robinson, and Mike Mentzer. And also cast a vote for the 90s and Dennis James!

    Dennis James' Contest Record

    1993
    Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 4th
    1994
    Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 2nd
    1995
    Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 1st
    1996
    Junior USA - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 13th
    Universe - Pro - NABBA, 2nd
    1997
    Junior Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 6th
    Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 4th
    1998
    USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 1st
    USA Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
    1999
    Night of Champions - IFBB, 15th

    DJ competed beyond the 90s, too...

    2000
    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 4th
    Grand Prix England - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 3rd
    Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
    Olympia - IFBB, 11th
    World Pro Championships - IFBB, 4th
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    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Australia - IFBB, 2nd
    Grand Prix England - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, Winner
    Olympia - IFBB, 7th
    2002
    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 7th
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    Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 4th
    Olympia - IFBB, 10th
    Show of Strength Pro Championships - IFBB, 5th
    2003
    Olympia - IFBB, 4th
    Show of Strength Pro Championships - IFBB, 4th
    2004
    Olympia - IFBB, 8th
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    Charlotte Pro Championships - IFBB, 2nd
    Olympia - IFBB, 6th
    2006
    Grand Prix Austria - IFBB, 4th
    New York Pro Championships - IFBB, 3rd
    Olympia - IFBB, 9th
    2007
    Colorado Pro Championships - IFBB, 8th
    New York Pro Championships - IFBB, 2nd
    2008
    Europa Supershow - IFBB, Open, 2nd
    Olympia - IFBB, 8th
    Tampa Pro Championships - IFBB, Open, 2nd
    2009
    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 7th
    Europa Supershow - IFBB, Open, 1st
    New York Pro Championships - IFBB, Open, 2nd
    Olympia - IFBB, 14th
    Tampa Pro Championships - IFBB, Open, 1st
    2010
    European Pro - IFBB, 2nd
    Olympia - IFBB, 11th
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    Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 3rd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Roberts View Post
    Thank you. What would you change?

    I wanted to keep the list to bodybuilders who have competed. I'm sure somebody will mention Vic Richards.
    If hes in deed natural, doug miller deserves a mention, possibly dillett, and Viator...i dont know the ins and out of the experiment but he basically did what Rich piana is trying to do, steve reeves

    Theres more like arnold who seems to make every list....id also think coleman would be higher, most of it is just rankings that could go either way
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    Hard-Training-Chris-Cormier's Visit To Birmingham

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    My top 10 would be :

    1) Kevin Levrone
    2) Flex Wheeler
    3) Lee Priest
    4) Bob Paris / Arnold S
    5) Serge Nubret (Could be 1st I don't know)
    6) Paul Dilett /Dorian Yates
    7) Phil heath / Sergio Oliva
    8) Dexter Jackson
    9) Paul Demayo (If no rec drug problem could have gone very very far)
    10) Shawn Rhoden / Lionel Beyeke / Chris Cormier / Dennis Newman

    Shit My top 10 is a Top 20. And it should not be read in order. They all had great attributes and amazing/fabulous genetic.
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    Why am i not in there? Wait, its because my genetics suck shit. 😧😟😣

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcua View Post
    My top 10 would be :

    1) Kevin Levrone
    2) Flex Wheeler
    3) Lee Priest
    4) Bob Paris / Arnold S
    5) Serge Nubret (Could be 1st I don't know)
    6) Paul Dilett /Dorian Yates
    7) Phil heath / Sergio Oliva
    8) Dexter Jackson
    9) Paul Demayo (If no rec drug problem could have gone very very far)
    10) Shawn Rhoden / Lionel Beyeke / Chris Cormier / Dennis Newman

    Shit My top 10 is a Top 20. And it should not be read in order. They all had great attributes and amazing/fabulous genetic.
    I forgot Ronnie, Cedric, and Greg Plitt in my top 20 too. (No I'm not trolling for Greg)
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    1. Flex Wheeler
    2. Ronnie Coleman
    3. Lee Priest
    5. Dexter Jackson
    6. Dorian Yates
    7. Mike Ashley
    8. Flex Lewis
    9. Kai Greene
    10. Phil Heath

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    Brian Buchanan and Toney Freeman and anyone with that extreme X frame.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZero View Post
    1. Flex Wheeler
    2. Ronnie Coleman
    3. Lee Priest
    5. Dexter Jackson
    6. Dorian Yates
    7. Mike Ashley
    8. Flex Lewis
    9. Kai Greene
    10. Phil Heath
    Good list right dere
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