Imagine if Kai Greene joined Lee Thompson's federation

[Shizzo]

I honestly compare Lee's upstart federation to a company like Bellator.

We all know that the IFBB (like the UFC in MMA) are the big boys on the block, but would that stop talent from going there, for the right price?

I would like people from Rx to school me on why competition is a bad thing?

In fact, why don't these federations let competitors compete for both organizations?

More contests means more money and exposure for everyone involved, right?

[Curt James]

In fact, why don't these federations let competitors compete for both organizations?

Picture Chevrolet cheering on Ford sales. Why would one company encourage patrons (audience members, athletes, vendors) spending money at a competing company's store or dealership?

[Curt James]

I would like people from Rx to school me on why competition is a bad thing?

Competition is a good thing. Look at the contracts that sprung up following Vince McMahon's WBF creation.

But it looks likes it's going to be a rough road for Thompson. His organization is simply not competition at all.

Where McMahon was able to sign Aaron Baker, Mike Christian, Vince Comerford, David Dearth, Berry DeMey, Johnnie Morant, Danny Padilla, Tony Pearson, Jim Quinn, Mike Quinn, Eddie Robinson, Gary Strydom, and Troy Zuccolotto, Thompson has signed who?

No one.

Even the WBF with its deep pockets only lasted from January 1991 to July 1992. Not even two years.

[Shizzo]

Picture Chevrolet cheering on Ford sales. Why would one company encourage patrons (audience members, athletes, vendors) spending money at a competing company's store or dealership?

It's called competition. I have always thought (I could be wrong) that pro bodybuilders are considered independent contractors.

What stops them from competing in any licensed, sanctioned event?

If the IFBB makes the athletes sign an exclusive contract, then shame on the athlete.

I am not a math major, but more federations, more contests, more exposure..........

How could that not equal more money for all parties involved?

[Shizzo]

That is how the Superbowl started......Just saying. Competing federations (working together) can create something special.

[black-elephant]

Competition is a good thing. Look at the contracts that sprung up following Vince McMahon's WBF creation.

Where does the prize money come from? Sponsors. Sponsor dollars within the supplement world are finite. The challenge becomes marketing outside the existing sponsor base. Otherwise, competition simply moves the existing sponsor dollars between groups without an increase in the total. It should be interesting.

[Chris Aceto]

Trump had Herschel walker. Doug flutie. He still was a disaster. So if Kai left so would nsl

[BigZero]

There is already a competing organization, so why not just send Kai to NABBA?

NABBA has been around since 1950 and cannot compete with the IFBB.
For any upstart to think competition with the IFBB is possible is completely illogical based on the myriad failures throughout history.

[Joe Pietaro]

Trump had Herschel walker. Doug flutie. He still was a disaster. So if Kai left so would nsl

The USFL was successful for a few years and did attract not only seasoned NFL veterans, but also the cream of the crop that would have been entering the NFL via the draft. The problem was that it kind of peaked as a spring league and that's when they tried to go head-to-head against the NFL via the anti-trust lawsuit. Even though the USFL won, the monetary amount awarded was $3, I believe. That was the death knell of the league.

[Shizzo]

Trump had Herschel walker. Doug flutie. He still was a disaster. So if Kai left so would nsl

I was thinking more about the old AFL, and how the played the NFL in the first few superbowls. Eventually ithey merged, and the product became even better.

[Chris Aceto]

The USFL was successful for a few years and did attract not only seasoned NFL veterans, but also the cream of the crop that would have been entering the NFL via the draft. The problem was that it kind of peaked as a spring league and that's when they tried to go head-to-head against the NFL via the anti-trust lawsuit. Even though the USFL won, the monetary amount awarded was $3, I believe. That was the death knell of the league.

the death knell was trump. He convinced the other owners to go head to head with the nfl and the usfl attendance went into the toilet. Trump responded by sue of course

[Joe Pietaro]

the death knell was trump. He convinced the other owners to go head to head with the nfl and the usfl attendance went into the toilet. Trump responded by sue of course

Yes, Trump was behind that decision and it obviously backfired against him. But he did prove in a court of law that the NFL was guilty of the anti-trust issues.

What Thompson filed against the IFBB is the same type of lawsuit.

[Chris Aceto]

Yes, Trump was behind that decision and it obviously backfired against him. But he did prove in a court of law that the NFL was guilty of the anti-trust issues.

What Thompson filed against the IFBB is the same type of lawsuit.

Ok I will skip my Starbucks. That's 1.89. U can pay pal it to Lee and call it a day.

[Shizzo]

Does the IFBB have a current athletes rep? If pro bodybuilders are considered independent contractors, shouldn't they be free to compete in any organization? Why have there been alleged "ramifications" (I.E. Lee Priest) being placed on pro bodybuilders who venture from the IFBB?

I thought "independent" was another way of saying free?

[mdvsony]

I honestly compare Lee's upstart federation to a company like Bellator.

We all know that the IFBB (like the UFC in MMA) are the big boys on the block, but would that stop talent from going there, for the right price?



I would like people from Rx to school me on why competition is a bad thing?

In fact, why don't these federations let competitors compete for both organizations?

More contests means more money and exposure for everyone involved, right?

Bellator is the UFC's elephant graveyard.