Why do people always think it is the drugs?

**Tatyana** · 07-20-2009, 06:36 PM

I used to find it quite amusing and a compliment that people always assume that if you have any amount of muscle, you must be taking steroids.

Lately, it has really been annoying me.

It isn't that I even have an issue with steroid use (abuse does concern me), my boyfriend uses and I find the whole pharmacology/endocrinology/physiology of steroids fascinating.

Does anyone else get fed up with the constant comments that you have to take drugs to put on muscle and get really lean?

**4evermuscle** · 07-20-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Tatyana

Does anyone else get fed up with the constant comments that you have to take drugs to put on muscle and get really lean?

No, because it's true.

**Tatyana** · 07-20-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by 4evermuscle

No, because it's true.

So you don't think that anyone is natural?

Do you agree that there are natural variations in intelligence, attractiveness, hand-eye coordination, etc?

**Mirko Cro Cop** · 07-20-2009, 07:24 PM

I hate how alot of people say things like "it's all drugs" and "if I was on the same stuff as him i'd be his size too". This pisses me off so much as even though I am not on steroids or any other performance enhancer, I do argue for them, think they should be legal and be given a much better time by the public.

I do also plan to start using them when I turn 21.

**4evermuscle** · 07-20-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tatyana

So you don't think that anyone is natural?

Oh, plenty people are natural. They just don't look good.

Originally Posted by Tatyana

Do you agree that there are natural variations in intelligence, attractiveness, hand-eye coordination, etc?

Yes.

**Mongdog** · 07-20-2009, 07:28 PM

I have seen some amazing naturals. I know one from my old neighborhood. The kid likes to be jacked but will not compete.... Anyway, although I am not natural, I feel that people will assume that anyone who is working hard for an impressive physique, is using drugs to do it. "You can't get a physique like that, naturally"

**Tatyana** · 07-20-2009, 07:33 PM

I really wonder if all of the direct advertising of pharma drugs to the public in the US, as well as the current war on steroids has had an impact on the culture and given rise to this line of thinking.

**Tatyana** · 07-20-2009, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by 4evermuscle

Oh, plenty people are natural. They just don't look good.

I suppose that depends on what you think looks good with regards to physique.

I think that there are quite a few people that would be quite massive and look great, but they just don't lift weights.

You have brought up the issue that I am referring to in this thread, as soon as someone looks good, people automatically think 'drugs'.

**Mongdog** · 07-20-2009, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Tatyana

I really wonder if all of the direct advertising of pharma drugs to the public in the US, as well as the current war on steroids has had an impact on the culture and given rise to this line of thinking.

I believe it does. Have you seen any of the anti steroid bilboards? "F*ilure, use steroids, become one"

**Afrowijjy** · 07-20-2009, 07:38 PM

The BOLD FACT is drugs do get you to a certain level that you wouldnt normally reach naturally,that's a fact that cant be argued with however it also takes a strict workout regime, correct and precise nutrition to achieve the results that most bodybuilders have gained and thats what most uneducated people dont know and since they have done a biology class where they were taught about steroids they think thats all that is going on.hence why they assume freakish muscle is solely dependent on drugs!

**Tatyana** · 07-20-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mongdog

I believe it does. Have you seen any of the anti steroid bilboards? "F*ilure, use steroids, become one"

I don't live in the US, but I have noticed a certain mind set or attitude that people think you have to take drugs in order to obtain the body you want.

I can understand this in people who want to compete in most BBing federations or live the BBing lifestyle, but this is also becoming more prevalent in people who just want to lose a bit of fat and put on a little bit of muscle.

**Afrowijjy** · 07-20-2009, 07:51 PM

these people who just want to lose a bit of fat have probably previously tried to but have failed because of for example they couldnt be arsed to apply the effort needed and with drugs such as alli that makes claims such as "For every 2 lb (1 kg) you lose from your own efforts, with alli you can lose 1 lb (1/2 kg) more." and so why wouldnt you use it?however i believe this product is only on prescription however the common popular belief is drugs can make you get to where you want faster with less effort!and in alli's case it is proven since instead of you spending another ten minutes on the tread mill just pop a pill and you lose that extra pound easy enough and you save ten minutes that you could use to rant on forums such as rxmuscle

**will-work4andro** · 07-20-2009, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tatyana

I suppose that depends on what you think looks good with regards to physique.

I think that there are quite a few people that would be quite massive and look great, but they just don't lift weights.

You have brought up the issue that I am referring to in this thread, as soon as someone looks good, people automatically think 'drugs'.

yeah it sucks...but that's just the nature of people in general...if they believe they can't achieve it themselves they don't think you can either. and to the person who says no natural looks good...i completely disagree with that...i've seen plenty of naturals that look flat out amazing...natural bodybuilding is improving every single year...not to mention, natural bodybuilders tend to actually show up to shows in great conditioning...that's definitely not always the case at NPC shows.

**nutratroy** · 07-20-2009, 11:14 PM

Great Q?

**G-Roy** · 07-21-2009, 10:55 AM

Because drugs play a large part in sports and performance. Drugs are a part of every sport and an average joe insnt goign to take the time to learn about natural bodybuilding vs the guys you see on the cover of a magazing that represent our sport. If Manny Ramirez was the ambassador for baseball we could assume all baseball players are on drugs, so when you see a line up of 10 mutants on the olympia stage you will assume anyone who looks remotely similar must be usuing something. Other sports tend to get a pass though, no one really cares about ramirez or A-Rod failing drug tests.

Also, lazy people tend to use it as an excuse as to why they are fat and unhealthy. If they "were only on drugs like us they would look good too." I dont let it get to me. If someone makes a drug comment I take it as a compliment because I must look decent if someone if accusing me of using.