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    Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on the forums, had a really good year competing pulled 200kg raw and decided to takemy foot off the gas to iron out any form issues before next year's competitions.

    So I've been off for 10 weeks, at my peak i was running 30mg prop a week and 15mg tren ace split into three doses.

    AF has come twice, but I have crazy insomnia, fatigue, zero sex drive and quite a lot of hair loss. My test levels are 0.4 nmol, the doctor's have said this is fine as the range is 0.2 - 2.98
    But I feel crappy. Mainly the insomnia which I don't get on cycle

    I dont really know where to go from here. Just needed to vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKdeadliftgirl View Post
    Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on the forums, had a really good year competing pulled 200kg raw and decided to takemy foot off the gas to iron out any form issues before next year's competitions.

    So I've been off for 10 weeks, at my peak i was running 30mg prop a week and 15mg tren ace split into three doses.

    AF has come twice, but I have crazy insomnia, fatigue, zero sex drive and quite a lot of hair loss. My test levels are 0.4 nmol, the doctor's have said this is fine as the range is 0.2 - 2.98
    But I feel crappy. Mainly the insomnia which I don't get on cycle

    I dont really know where to go from here. Just needed to vent.
    Prop clears within 3 weeks but tren ace has a detection time of 5 months, so I'd guess its the tren clearing.

    For hair loss - you can try Nizoral shampoo (1 or 2%) every 3 days. Not sure what else will help much with that. Tren sucks for that.

    "Trensomnia" - apparently there is a term for it - the usual recommendations are 25 mg diphenhydromine (OTC sleep aid like Nytol), Benedryl or melatonin.

    Here's a copy/paste of a post from several years ago by SisterSteel - one of the few people on the planet I consider extremely well-versed in female pharmacology regarding estrogen PCT:

    PCT and Women

    I wrote this a while back and thought I would share it here as well.

    I usually recommend Clomid to bring levels of estrogen back into alignment as part of a post cycle therapy regimen for the more aggressive female user. Hcg promotes progesterone production and mimics the pituitary glands message to the ovary to release the egg. The use of HCG can be particularly useful when natural progesterone production is affected by androgynous progesterone based compounds. This process can cause some irritability, but hey, nothing is for free. Notice how the use of ancillaries in female PCT is very similar to the men's only serves different purposes. Another supplement that I swear by for reestablishing estrogen balance is an OTC soy product called Estroven. I suggest double the recommended dosing for the first week and then dropping it down to the suggested dosing on the box for the remaining 3 weeks. The effects of the soy product are slow and gentle, and as a result water retention due to sudden resurgence of estrogen is rarely a problem.

    For the less experienced user seeking a less drastic alternative to female PCT to promote ovulation and bypass the risks and side-effects of the aforementioned fertility drugs, there are other natural remedies that are worth attempting. Vitamin B6, Evening Primrose Oil, Vitex (Chastetree Berry) to name a few. Natural progesterone cream is another option. The red clover is a very popular remedy and one that I highly recommend. It is high in calcium and magnesium and helps to nourish the uterus. False Unicorn Root and Stinging Nettle both help to restore and regulate hormonal balance as well as ovulation. Royal Jelly is also considered a natural alternative to Clomid, Licorice root possesses estrogenic activity, and is said to be beneficial as a uterine tonic and to induce normal ovulation.
    I also find that Tribulus can induce ovulation in women. Tribulus increases the LH hormone (that rises sharply just before ovulation) and also raises FSH hormone.
    Tribulus also promotes the development and maturation of the ovarian follicle.

    Now some other suggestions when coming off cycle would be a taper which is usually not necessary for the more advanced user. However, many women have experienced less of a rebound with a post cycle taper with the much milder forms of AAS.

    Post cycle depressions can be combated with 5HTP, St. Johns wart or valerian root.

    If a woman supplements with testosterone without the use of an AI, estrogen levels are raised in an attempt to attain a homeostatic state. Once you discontinue the use of testosterone, the body's natural test production is shut down temporarily causing an immense surge in estrogen which results in the terribly dreaded estrogenic rebound. In this case, Nolvadex post cycle is highly recommended to allow estrogen to slowly level out as the test levels fall until homeostasis is attained once again.

    And of course, last but not least, cardio and a clean diet are a staple in any post cycle regimen and necessary to promote health and hormonal balance.

    Respect,
    SS


    And lastly, since you were involved in some serious competition, have you cycled your training / competition in terms of getting good recovery and you're not also experiencing just general CNS burn out? If not, just wanted to throw that out there too.

    My guess is it's all about the tren. Any of the estrogen PCT may help w/ sex drive and such. Otherwise, you might try the usual OTC sleep aids.

    As they say, "this too, shall pass". But waiting for long-acting stuff to clear your system is part of the cost of playing the game.

    Wishing you a good night's sleep!
    "The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late."
    ~Jack Lalanne



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