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    Default Underrated or WHAT?!!!


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    Yeah, definitely underrated. His height probably held him back a bit.
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    Can't tell with all of that prehistoric retouching. Watch video and you can see that he was a small guy, not just short but overall he lacked thickness, back development, and legs. Looks like a MPD contender.
    https://youtu.be/eANkKXGdT90

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    Damn damn aesthetics! Link below gives his stats, that's a thick 176 lb'r - being 5'4" helps.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDKLzelJLfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZero View Post
    Can't tell with all of that prehistoric retouching. Watch video and you can see that he was a small guy, not just short but overall he lacked thickness, back development, and legs. Looks like a MPD contender.
    https://youtu.be/eANkKXGdT90

    He got much better after 1987.

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    French bodybuilder are ALL underrated. Thierry Pastel, Serge Nubret (could have place higher and become Mr Olympia if no politics), Lionel Beyeke (ok no this week he was fluffy/watery, although in the fluffiness department he did not beat Brandon Curry who was as fluffy as a candy floss!!!)
    Last edited by davidcua; 08-24-2016 at 03:02 PM.
    David Cua also called Donald Pump known for "making bodybuilding great again" !

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcua View Post
    French bodybuilder are ALL underrated. Thierry Pastel, Serge Nubret (could have place higher and become Mr Olympia if no politics), Lionel Beyeke (ok no this week he was fluffy/watery, although in the fluffiness department he did not beat Brandon Curry who was as fluffy as a candy floss!!!)

    Amen to that.

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    Pastels arms were enormous. I think big arms were more important back then. With the age of the mass monster arm size seems secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZero View Post
    Can't tell with all of that prehistoric retouching. Watch video and you can see that he was a small guy, not just short but overall he lacked thickness, back development, and legs. Looks like a MPD contender.
    That was 1987.

    Look at his placings a few years later...

    1984

    World Championships - WABBA, Winner

    1985

    World Championships - WABBA, Professional, 4th

    1986

    Universe - Pro - NABBA, 4th
    World Championships - WABBA, Professional, 1st

    1987

    European Championships - WABBA, Professional, 1st
    Universe - Pro - NABBA, 9th
    World Championships - WABBA, Professional, 1st

    1989

    Grand Prix England - IFBB, 5th
    Grand Prix France - IFBB, 5th
    Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 7th
    Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 8th
    Grand Prix Spain (2) - IFBB, 7th
    Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 7th
    Grand Prix Sweden - IFBB, 6th

    1990

    Grand Prix France - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, Winner
    Night of Champions - IFBB, 9th

    1991

    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
    Grand Prix Denmark - IFBB, 4th
    Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
    Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, 4th
    Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
    Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 3rd
    Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
    Musclefest Grand Prix - IFBB, 2nd
    Night of Champions - IFBB, 4th
    Olympia - IFBB, 8th
    Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd

    1992

    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
    Chicago Pro Championships - IFBB, 2nd
    Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
    Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
    Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 3rd
    Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, 6th
    Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
    Night of Champions - IFBB, 4th
    Olympia - IFBB, 10th
    Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd

    1993

    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 13th
    Chicago Pro Championships - IFBB, 11th
    Grand Prix France (2) - IFBB, 2nd
    Grand Prix France - IFBB, 6th
    Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 11th
    Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 12th
    Night of Champions - IFBB, Did not place
    Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 10th

    1994

    Arnold Classic - IFBB, 11th
    Grand Prix France (2) - IFBB, 4th
    Grand Prix France - IFBB, 6th
    Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
    Olympia - IFBB, 14th

    1995

    Grand Prix France - IFBB, 6th
    Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB, 6th

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