GH, IGF1 and should I combine them ?

[Sciroxx]

I've been asked more then several times if IGF1 should be combined with GH, and why not to take it by itself or instead of GH usage ?
In a nutshell the ideal solution is using GH in combination with IGF1-lr3 and/or IGF1-DES

It's true that the IGF1 is the mediator for most of the anabolic effect of the GH, but we must consider 2 things -

The GH has some direct metabolic effect by itself, both in releasing glucose and fatty acid into the circulation, and by this raising metabolism and releasing available energy for anabolic demands, The GH has also a direct effect on nitrogen balance not through the IGF1 path

The IGF1 itself has a direct suppressing effect on the endogenous GH release - so if u inject exogenous IGF you actually and directly suppress any GH present in the circulation

Further more - many GH users are not aware to the fact that GH decreases insulin sensitivity. IGF1 increases insulin sensitivity, and negates this effect, which leads to optimal metabolic conditions. Some users use insulin in conjunction with GH but using IGF1 is much more effective in retaining optimum insulin sensitivity and much much safer

So the ideal solution is combining them both and by this keep optimal serum GH and IGF1 levels

[trojanhorse69]

Yeah I have had excellent results when combining hGH and IGF-1 along with insulin. This triad is IMO stronger than most steroids. I haven't used any anabolic steroids in over a month and haven't lose any weight after my last cycle. I plan to stay off for awhile and give my system a break. What should be the timing of the IGF-1 dose relative to the GH? I have been taking GH in the AM and IGF-1 in the PM. Seems to be working better this way.