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    Lee Haney had the 2nd best genetics of all time of a Mr Olympia and had the brains to use them. He was battling for the Olympia at 23 years old.

    "Stimulate not annihiate" is not something that was running through Dorian or Arnold's mind when they were training I'm guessing.

    I see that Haney would have been Mr Olympia in any era and if he started in the 90's and used the same drugs as everybody else he would still have won 8 Sandows.

    Mr guess is Haney had extra gears he never used.

    He was born to be a bodybuilding king.

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    Ronnie vids were awesome
    Today it's a bunch of wankers talking about the beach life

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    And look like feminine q_ _ _ _s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker face Ace View Post
    And look like feminine q_ _ _ _s
    But masculine q_ _ _ _s are good to go?

    And, hey, what's that stand for? Because...

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    We could extend the discussion to men who have placed in the top three four or more times. These men are:

    Kevin Levrone 7

    Shawn Ray 5

    Kai Greene 4

    Shawn Rhoden 4 (still competing in the O.)

    Ken Wheeler 4

    Surge Nubret 4

    Rich Gaspari 4

    Lee Labrada 4

    Any patterns? Six of them are of African descent.

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    Genetically speaking just having darker skin helps - or else why pro tan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    I don't have any video or pics, but do remember a quote by Eddie Robinson where he said he became a bodybuilder because he looked like a bodybuilder.

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    Okay, found this. Not sure on his age here, but he's not 30. lol

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    Robinson went on to appear on a ton of magazine covers during his career, one that has spanned the AAU, NPC, WBF, IFBB, and now as NABBA USA President.

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    Joe Weider and Eddie
    Robinson was multi-talented. He was a football player and was going to pursue that at the college level when Joe Weider talked him into signing with their publications. He was still powerlifting at the time, as well.

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    Training wise Id say Dorian trained the hardest. All around worked the hardest Jay hands down

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    I agree with all your picks aside from two large mistakes. Arnold was notorious for being the hardest working guy from that era, he belongs in the work group. Dexter never did abs or cardio and admitted to eating fried chicken and shit on his diet... easy group for sure.

    I could also see Jay in the working group. Jay was a bodybuilding monk in his day.
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    Hany and Oliva should have their own ultra-easy category. Lee's motto was essentially "dont train too hard" and he routinely made ice cream part of his pre contest diet. Not to mention he dominated the Olympia stage in his late 20s. Sergio didn't diet.. at all.
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    Mobster brings up a good point that some guys have just been unlucky in who they had to go up against. I saw this post the other day about who would have been Mr. O each year if the 2nd place guy had won, and Jay would've had 6 O's. When you go up against someone like Ronnie its a whole new ballgame in terms of what you have to overcome.

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    Geoff Roberts speaking the truth about Dexter, Arnold, Lee and Sergio. Especially Dexter. If Dexter had to work hard when he was younger he wouldn't still be around. Cruise control saves gas.

    I'd add to the Jay monk comment that Jay also did a shitload of volume. I figure he did 3x the work than Dorian did, per week. Not the same peak intensity, but none of his sets were light either. He was a working-man's monk. The monk of monks. And of course the years he was less monk-like he didn't look as good.
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    DORIAN YATES worked the hardest to make good genetics a GREAT PHYSIQUE (6x Mr Olympia). Case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Beat View Post
    Yes there is the angle that some had it easier because of the competition they faced or politics. My angle is some guys just didn't have to try very hard to win because they are the most superior of genetic freaks, it was a very easy rise to the top without huge sacrifice.

    I think Dorian probably sacrifed most personally to be the best, Arnold too was extremely driven and still is. Both have crazy genetics but both were the hardest most dedicated trainers in their respective eras. Both would do whatever it took and did to break the barriers of what had gone before.

    An example of where I am coming from would be Paul Dillett. That cat would put an inch on his bicep picking up a pen to sign his gym membership form.

    Another example for me is Shawn Ray, check him out as a 18 years old, it's all there to see that he has it. All he has to do is to add mass. Very few 18 year olds had it this easy. Ray was close to perfection right from the get go. It's no surprise a few short years later he was a pro. For this reason I see it Ray had it easy.


    Dorian was a genetic freak. He entered his first British championship with hardly any serious training at 35. The response from the judges convinced him to go at it. I used to read Muscle & co, the brit mag.
    He did work like a maniac after that.
    And he had huge calves without training. Looks like these days the judges don't even look at calves.


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