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    Default Clean Eating Destroyed? Layne Norton V-Log

    Clean Eating Destroyed? Layne Norton V-Log


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3NPxoCuAI



    Cliffs:


    - The Word "Clean" has no objective definition
    - Balances down to energy balance (Calories consumed vs Calories Burned)
    - What effects energy Balance? Fiber increases thermogenesis + Improves Satiety ... May favor fatloss due to consume low calories but still stay full.
    - Protein helps spare lean body mass/build lean bodymass . About as much as fiber. Higher protein diets aid satiety and hunger pains when dieting.
    - Every Study where calories & Protein shown 0 different in fatloss
    - Sugar is problematic because its not filling, so people tend to avoid it due to easy to overeat (and strive for higher fiber/protein foods)
    - No associate with fruit and obesity. If sugar was causing fatgain, then fruit would have a negative impact on body composition, but that is untrue due to berries having benefits on thermogeneic response, satiety, and plenty of micronutrients.
    - Dairy products is deemed to be unclean due to added sugars, but contain plenty of vitamin D & Calcium. Dairy has been shown to include fatloss benefits when caloric intake is controlled.
    - Increasing Sat Fat Intake in the long term does not have a negative effect on heart disease via long term research
    - Only reason to avoid dairy is due to lactose problem.
    - Very little evidence to gluten being a direct contributor to health issues. Only those with celiac should avoid at all costs (due to leaky gut syndrome)
    - Studies with clean eating have shown studies associated with binge eating behavior due to restrictive dieting practices. Over time this can have a great association with disinhibiation (binging) and weight gain/weight circumference.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28074888
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26931302
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075559
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22301838
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22049177
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21775530


    Restrictive Dieting & Binge eating
    Smith CF, Williamson DA, Bray GA, Ryan DH. Flexible vs Rigid Dieting Strategies: Relationship with Adverse Behavioral Outcomes. Appetite, 1999, 32, 295-305


    Meule A, Westenhofer J, Kubler A. Food cravings mediate the relationship between rigid, but not flexible control of eating behavior and dieting success.


    Stotland. Moderation: An alternative to restraint as a mode of weight self-regulation. Eating Behaviors 2012, 13;406-409.


    Bier DM. The energy cost of protein metabolism: lean and mean on Uncle Sam’s team. In: The role of protein and amino acids in sustaining and enhancing performance. Washington, DC: National Academies Press, 1999:109-19.


    Buchnolz AC and Schoeller DA. Is a calorie a calorie? Am J Clin Nutr, 2004:79(suppl): 899S-906S.


    West JA, de Looy AE. Weight loss in overweight subjects following low-sucrose or sucrose-containing diets. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2001 Aug;25(8):1122-8.


    Saris WH, Astrup A, Prentice AM, Zunft HJ, Formiguera X, Verboeket-van de Venne WP, Raben A, Poppitt SD, Seppelt B, Johnston S, Vasilaras TH, Keogh GF. Randomized controlled trial of changes in dietary carbohydrate/fat ratio and simple vs complex carbohydrates on body weight and blood lipids: the CARMEN study. The Carbohydrate Ratio Management in European National diets. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2000 Oct;24(10):1310-8.


    Raatz SK, Torkelson CJ, Redmon JB, Reck KP, Kwong CA, Swanson JE, Liu C, Thomas W, Bantle JP. Reduced glycemic index and glycemic load diets do not increase the effects of energy restriction on weight loss and insulin sensitivity in obese men and women. J Nutr. 2005 Oct;135(10):2387-91.


    Surwit RS, Feinglos MN, McCaskill CC, Clay SL, Babyak MA, Brownlow BS, Plaisted CS, Lin PH. Metabolic and behavioral effects of a high-sucrose diet during weight loss. Am J Clin Nutr. 1997 Apr;65(4):908-15.
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    We need to have IRON Debate on such nutrition topics... I know Dave has gone head to head with IIFYM - guy (name escapes me), but to have those who promote different points of view on diets could be useful.

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    Ian McCarthy - he always tried to be Layne 2.0. He was never able to do it because he's nowhere near Layne's level when it comes to knowledge, education, experience, physique and charisma.




    I'M TeamNorton. Him and Scott Stevenson are two guys everyone should follow when it comes to bodybuilding and facts

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    A well balanced diet can be good for you???? Who would have thought?

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    "clean" diet....I wash all my veggies before I eat them

    I do love when someone tells me they eat clean and then you ask them what they eat, and maybe they do consider them "clean" but they are definitely processed

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