Are any protein powders good anymore??

[The Solution]

BPI Doesn't have any 3rd party tests or a COA to provide or claim what is in their product.

MAN Sports
PES
Cellucor
Scivation
Animal Whey
Beverly

These are quality brands that actually have 3rd party tests to verify you get what is on the label.

There have been COUNTLESS of companies found guilty of spiking their protein.

https://www.stack3d.com/certified

Good list above ^

https://blog.priceplow.com/protein-s...o-acid-spiking

• July 1, 2014: Body Fortress Lawsuit
• November 4, 2014: A GNC and 4 Dimension Nutrition joint class action
• November 11, 2014: The CVS Lawsuit was filed regarding CVS Whey Protein Powder.
• Giant Sports (Delicious Protein)
• November 13, 2014: Inner Armour Class Action Lawsuit (Mass Peak and Nitro Peak) — Update September 9, 2016: Case dismissed with prejudice
• November 19, 2014: New Whey Lawsuit (Multi-Pro)
• November 19, 2014: Pro Supps PS Whey Lawsuit served.
• November 19, 2014: Fit Foods (Mutant Whey)
• ALLMAX Lawsuit (Hexapro Protein Powder)
• January 23, 2015: CytoSport Muscle Milk Family Lawsuit (note that this is not for spiking! It’s allegedly just under-dosed protein and not having L-Glutamine!)
• January 28, 2015: MusclePharm Arnold Schwarzenegger Iron Mass

Others to add:
Trutein

So I broke down and got some BPI Peanut Butter Ice Cream Bar protein powder today and man does it taste like every other god damn chocolate flavor generic garbage.

I have avoided protein powders for so long because after years of drinking them all I taste is chemicals....I wish I could find one that didn't taste like every other protein out there and end up wasting $30 on more fart powder....

[BILLY GUNS]

BPI Doesn't have any 3rd party tests or a COA to provide or claim what is in their product.

MAN Sports
PES
Cellucor
Scivation
Animal Whey
Beverly

These are quality brands that actually have 3rd party tests to verify you get what is on the label.

There have been COUNTLESS of companies found guilty of spiking their protein.

https://www.stack3d.com/certified

Good list above ^

https://blog.priceplow.com/protein-s...o-acid-spiking

• July 1, 2014: Body Fortress Lawsuit
• November 4, 2014: A GNC and 4 Dimension Nutrition joint class action
• November 11, 2014: The CVS Lawsuit was filed regarding CVS Whey Protein Powder.
• Giant Sports (Delicious Protein)
• November 13, 2014: Inner Armour Class Action Lawsuit (Mass Peak and Nitro Peak) — Update September 9, 2016: Case dismissed with prejudice
• November 19, 2014: New Whey Lawsuit (Multi-Pro)
• November 19, 2014: Pro Supps PS Whey Lawsuit served.
• November 19, 2014: Fit Foods (Mutant Whey)
• ALLMAX Lawsuit (Hexapro Protein Powder)
• January 23, 2015: CytoSport Muscle Milk Family Lawsuit (note that this is not for spiking! It’s allegedly just under-dosed protein and not having L-Glutamine!)
• January 28, 2015: MusclePharm Arnold Schwarzenegger Iron Mass

Others to add:
Trutein

Interesting material

[black-elephant]

Food is always better than protein shakes. I understand the need for them as I travel a lot for work. Personally, spend the money and buy the best. SPECIES Isolyze is the best product on the market and is the best value. Solution mentioned some other quality brands, however for value (isolate protein grams per dollar) I have not been able to come close unless it is on clearance.

[nsp]

Anybody willing to post up some data that suggests 20 grams of protein from chicken, eggs or beef is any better than 20 grams of protein from whey? Seems like we always here "food is better" yet I never see anyone back it up as to why. Better biovalibility? What? Whey is dairy, dairy is one of the 4 major FOOD groups, so technically it IS food, correct? If a food is made in to powdered form, is it all of a sudden not a food? Humor me.

[Young Gotti]

Anybody willing to post up some data that suggests 20 grams of protein from chicken, eggs or beef is any better than 20 grams of protein from whey? Seems like we always here "food is better" yet I never see anyone back it up as to why. Better biovalibility? What? Whey is dairy, dairy is one of the 4 major FOOD groups, so technically it IS food, correct? If a food is made in to powdered form, is it all of a sudden not a food? Humor me.

it's a misconception....protein is protein....unless you say food protein is better because of growth factors or extra vitamins and fats from the different types of meats

Just read this in an article this morning:

If eating 5-6 meals per day seems daunting and inconvenient, just use a quality protein powder between solid meals. This same group of researchers concluded in another extensive study that protein supplements and whole food protein sources were equally effective.

[nsp]

http://seannal.com/articles/suppleme...hole-foods.php

[The Solution]

Anybody willing to post up some data that suggests 20 grams of protein from chicken, eggs or beef is any better than 20 grams of protein from whey? Seems like we always here "food is better" yet I never see anyone back it up as to why. Better biovalibility? What? Whey is dairy, dairy is one of the 4 major FOOD groups, so technically it IS food, correct? If a food is made in to powdered form, is it all of a sudden not a food? Humor me.

Whole foods contain far more micronutrients then a very heavily processed Whey protein ever will

[black-elephant]

In addition to micronutrients, cost is a factor.

Local prices may vary:
Whey Isolate $10 lb
Sirloin steak $6 lb
Hormone free boneless skinless chicken breasts $1.99 lb
Omega eggs free range chickens $1.5 dozen

[nsp]

Whole foods contain far more micronutrients then a very heavily processed Whey protein ever will

That's true, like the iron and zink content in beef. But I don't know anyone who counts micro's or plan their diet around them where as plenty who count and plan around macros. When bodybuilders eats chicken they do so for the protein rather than the selenium and magnesium. And I would image sufficient micros can be consumed in the other macros such as carbs and fats.

[nsp]

In addition to micronutrients, cost is a factor.

Local prices may vary:
Whey Isolate $10 lb
Sirloin steak $6 lb
Hormone free boneless skinless chicken breasts $1.99 lb
Omega eggs free range chickens $1.5 dozen

Pounds are errelevent when we measure our protein in protein grams rather than weight. Example, a pound of whey will have far more grams of protein than a pound of steak.

[nsp]

Why I mean is, not all grams of protein per pound are created equal.

[BILLY GUNS]

At this point I am gonna try to get unflavored and mix with some zero calorie mixes I have and see how that goes.....I am just over the whole gimmick of flavors suppose to taste just like a jelly donut and instead they taste like bland rice cakes covered in fart dust

[Big Beat]

I was always told food is better than supplement just in the way it is absorbed. Personally I would go with food to the point where time or being too fullto eat become bothersome. After that supplements have their place.

I have to say a good nutritious meal soon after a workout is the most benificial thing as far as I'm concerned. A post workout shake is ok but a 600-1000 calorie meal blows away any supplements for me personally.

[Curt James]

fart powder....

chalk dust

scrap dust

fart dust

I'm sensing a theme here.

[nsp]

I was always told food is better than supplement just in the way it is absorbed. Personally I would go with food to the point where time or being too fullto eat become bothersome. After that supplements have their place.

I have to say a good nutritious meal soon after a workout is the most benificial thing as far as I'm concerned. A post workout shake is ok but a 600-1000 calorie meal blows away any supplements for me personally.

But technically whey is food as its part of the dairy family, no different than cheese or yogurt. And it has more biovalibility than meat and eggs so it actually digests better.