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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    It's a long, long time since then, though, cook. Lots of great tasting protein supplements out there.

    How old are you two again? My first protein powder was Bob Hoffman's clumpy mess. Did not mix at all.

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    Old enough to remember that protein but I never did try it.
    I was a Weider boy.
    I used a lot of MLO back then too

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    I think this is ridiculous. Nearly every word of it. Actually, though I'm no fan of blanket statements, I'll go with every word of this is off base.

    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY GUNS View Post
    99.9% of todays "COACHES" are in it to get rich quick......To me if you need a person to show you how to feed yourself healthy meals you deserve to get ass raped....When I was younger I thought it was necessary but as I got older and realized so much more in life you gotta be a total idiot to "NEED" a coach......In my opinion unless you are making money and real money off the sport then you are just lazy to have someone teach you what your mommy and daddy thought you as a baby

    I have a guy at my gym HIGHLY Intelligent at his career building programs for Toshiba and I have to dumb shit down for him and explain DIETING is NOT HARD but your Career is and not many can do it.

    1) If you look at a fat ugly chick would you fuck her? prob not.....so I ask why do you eat fat ugly foods?

    2) If you have a coach.... did they do all your labs prior to starting (Prob not) do they have you use a glucometer when eating certain types of carbs to see how sensitive you are to them? (In my opinion again if your coach WASTES time on your diet seeing after 2 to 4 weeks how you respond over using a simple glucometer the minute you eat a type of carb its just stupid not to)

    3) NOBODY and NOBODY knows how a food truely responds with your body better than you and no coach can sit there and gauge foods for you better than you do

    People are sheep they cannot realize that they accomplish so many great things like a rewarding career and spend years learning it and doing it all on their own yet when it comes to a DIET or a PREP they turn into cry baby pussies and need their hands held on how to shovel bland eggs chicken and rice into their mouths....

    Very Simply put you could if you really truly worked hard and cared learn your own body in as little as 30 days and never need a coach. But that being said seeing as many COACHES that have popped outta the wood work in last 10 years people are just lazy and need all 6 to 8 meals nicely emailed to them each week instead of putting effort into themselves like they do their jobs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Old enough to remember that protein but I never did try it.
    I was a Weider boy.
    I used a lot of MLO back then too

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    That one escapes my memory.

    Weider and Hoffman mixed for crap. Hoffman's was like a cinder block.

    I remember buying a tub of Twinlab Gainers Fuel and thinking I died and went to heaven. Tasted great and mixed super easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt James View Post
    That one escapes my memory.

    Weider and Hoffman mixed for crap. Hoffman's was like a cinder block.

    I remember buying a tub of Twinlab Gainers Fuel and thinking I died and went to heaven. Tasted great and mixed super easily.
    MLO came in a can
    Had to use a can opener
    Let me hit Google

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    Couldnt find a picture of the 70's can but here is one from the 60's



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    That's how Hoffman's was, too. You needed a screwdriver to pry the lid off like a paint can. lol

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    And we walked backwards through three-foot drifts of snow to get to the gym, too.

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    Didn't they also do Protein from the Sea? Apparently you'd eat it and have an oily shit later on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    Didn't they also do Protein from the Sea? Apparently you'd eat it and have an oily shit later on
    What was that? Wasn't that some prescription drug that stopped your body from digesting fat in your food? One of the side effects was oil squirts. o.O

    No, thanks.

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    How is whey or casein protein good for anyone, in anyway? Consumption of any dairy products, by anything other than the offspring it is intended for, is unhealthy for humans and carries health risks.

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    For SOME. Using that same analogy we should only be eating other humans or only eating raw food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Old enough to remember that protein but I never did try it.
    I was a Weider boy.
    I used a lot of MLO back then too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    For SOME. Using that same analogy we should only be eating other humans or only eating raw food.
    I never got the no dairy logic but I haven't do much research on it every ther

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    I've seen it a ton of times. It's to do with mucus, spots on the skin and so on. In other words an extreme reaction to lactose. Another main gist is milk from cows is for calves. Again, using that analogy, we ought to drink breast milk. But even that is gets thrown out with 'breast milk is for babies' and so on.

    While it's true that most adults are not very good with lactose (it's worse in the dark races) a small amount is fine. That whey protein etc have far, far less than a glass of whole milk is, of course, conveniently ignored. Finally, unlike myself, most whey etc protein use is limited to a shake a day. The percentage of athletes drinking high levels isn't that great (supplement companies wish it was higher).

    You also get the same groups prattling on about denaturing too. So, as steak comes raw, we ought not too cook it. Same with milk instead of whey and so on. That food also has fads like fashion makes a joke of the ideas. Examples are raw milk, not pasteurized. Goat milk not cow and the recent one. Camel not goat.

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