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    Go look at their grocery cart
    Soda & TV Dinners.
    Too lazy to prep meals, consider healthier eating bland or complain its too expensive, but yet they don't fret about dropping 10$ at mcDonalds or Starbucks everyday.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaHammock View Post
    Poor people are fat in America. There's no hope for any of us
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Go look at their grocery cart
    Soda & TV Dinners.
    Too lazy to prep meals, consider healthier eating bland or complain its too expensive, but yet they don't fret about dropping 10$ at mcDonalds or Starbucks everyday.
    It wont let me rep you again. Anyway what you said plus 'going large' in McD's and 'Bucks.
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    Following on from The Solutions reply: I once stood behind a family of three obese people. Mum, dad and daughter (??). Anyway, there trolley had NOTHING but cola, pizza and crisps (what you call chips). One job I applied for some years ago would have had me working with obese individuals and part of that was to walk around supermarkets with them showing them good stuff and bad shit and helping them to read food labels.

    I struggle, it must be said, with a small degree of arrogance... it's 'can they really be that stupid or am I that clever?' Examples are (I've brought both): Asda (part of Walmart) sells a 1-kilo bag of new potatoes for 89p (other shops compete on these deals). You can chip, fry, boil, mash or roast these. They will also sell you, in the frozen food aisle, curly BBQ fries for way, way more for a kilo. To me it's obvious which is better. And if you've time to watch box sets you've time to prepare the cheaper bag of actual potatoes in any way you like. You'll save a few bucks and eat better. You'll eat better even if you make your own curly fries from them just because you wont add a ton of chemicals.

    You don't need to be an expert, a guru or have a degree / some certificate in nutrition to know this. Yes, there are nuances. It's the difference between losing fat and being ripped to the bone. Hence Chad, Dave, Chris and other gurus. And even they struggle when their clients don't do what they say they're doing. All three have had clients ring or text at silly o'clock and say 'I fucked up with a pizza' etc and 'what do I do now?'. How about the client does what they were supposed to do and not fuck up??

    One useful aspect of a club, plan or having a expert help you is often the simple act of joining up and paying for something somehow makes the idea more solid. It's a case of 'I've joined a diet group, told people I've joined, paid to join and so I MUST do right and lose weight'. Yet they could have done this for themselves without paying a buck. In fact I might suggest do both - take charge of your life AND sign up, as it were, and get double the results. Oh and please don't wait for a perfect time. Bring the cakes etc here - I'll eat them and you go buy the healthy stuff - right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    So its wise to tell someone who needs to lose weight to starve themselves?
    Anyone in this thread knows that starving yourself leads to severe health and hormone problems over long term periods. If anyone were to do something along those lines it has to be in very short stints or else your metabolism hits the gutter.

    So I take it that doesnt matter to you, OP, or anyone else who wants to diet?

    Would you suggest to anyone who wants to start dieting to drop their calories to rock bottom and say see you lost weight?

    The second they start to ramp calories up or eat normal again they just undid everything they ever tried to accomplish. That does not seem like too much of a diet, or a successful diet.

    But to each their own.

    Settle down. I never said to 'starve to death'

    My point is that there was very little information to go on from his post.

    So when you were dieting you never felt hungry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Go look at their grocery cart
    Soda & TV Dinners.
    Too lazy to prep meals, consider healthier eating bland or complain its too expensive, but yet they don't fret about dropping 10$ at mcDonalds or Starbucks everyday.
    I was being facetious.

    Do you know you can buy soda, chips and other crap with food stamps? Glad to see my taxs dollars put to good use. At least the health care industry gets a boost out of it when those food stamp recipients have to use their Medicaid coverage to get treatment for diabetes.

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    The worst....
    I have seen people cash their food stamps, then turn around and go buy cigarettes or beer.
    I guess those food stamps to feed their families are being put to good use.

    Sad world we live in.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaHammock View Post
    I was being facetious.

    Do you know you can buy soda, chips and other crap with food stamps? Glad to see my taxs dollars put to good use. At least the health care industry gets a boost out of it when those food stamp recipients have to use their Medicaid coverage to get treatment for diabetes.
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    Over here it was food banks for food so they could spend their benefits on bingo
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    People relate to and understand that which they have personal experience with.
    Poor people eat what ever they can afford based on their income.
    The less expensive food is the more they can buy.

    One of the reasons why poor people are fat, is that the higher you go up the healthy food chain the more expensive food is and the less it contains refined processed carbs, sugar.

    The least expensive foods are foods that contain high levels of sugar, saturated fats and processed carbs.
    aka. junk foods.
    Poor people fill their grocery carts up with that type of food because they can buy more of it.

    Part of the problem is that the junk food industry lobbies congress to allow junk foods to be bought through the SNAP ( food stamp) program.
    Last edited by DBowden; 03-18-2017 at 02:19 PM.

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