Dorian Yates on Shawn Ray as his Competition

**Big Beat** · 03-30-2017, 04:58 AM

Go to 2.10 in video.

Seems Shawn can't let go that he was beaten to the Olympia on 13 occasions. Its now over 20 years since 1994 and Shawn still can't get over it.

More than 20 years later and he is still harping on but yet he says Dallas has thin skin.

The old saying "sometimes the most sensitive to criticism can be the most insensitive to others" seems to have been written about Shawn Ray.

**MusclePoppins** · 03-30-2017, 10:32 AM

Shawn Ray beat Dorian twice and Nasser beat him once.

Yates- 3 Sandows
Ray- 2 Sandows
El Sonbaty- 1 Sandow

But no ... Dorian has all 6. Why do you think he's always so f*ck*n happy while Shawn Ray is bitching and Nasser is dead?!
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pd · 03-30-2017, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by MusclePoppins

Shawn Ray beat Dorian twice and Nasser beat him once.
Yates- 3 Sandows
Ray- 2 Sandows
El Sonbaty- 1 Sandow

I'm still debating the Nasser loss but no way Shawn Ray. Not even close. Dorian explains it perfectly.

**MusclePoppins** · 03-30-2017, 10:52 AM

Harold Poole, Mike Mentzer, Lee Labrada, Shawn Ray, Nasser El Sonbaty and Kai Greene should all have a Sandow. The IFBB is obsessed with keeping it in the hands of an established champion with the expectation/hope he'll come back the following year with a regrouped look that leaves no question.

**Big Beat** · 03-30-2017, 11:20 AM

A 100% Shawn Ray never beats an 80% Dorian Yates and never did.

Labrada looked especially great one year and was seriously compared to Haney but the result of that comparison was Haney was still miles ahead of Labrada.

Nasser came closest to beating Dorian until they turned around.

Phil has too many qualities for Kai, Phil comes in off and he still beats Kai who for some reason never nailed his Olympia conditioning anyway.

We want the underdog to win and this distorts our perception of who is the best man.

Its rare the best man does not win, the 1980 and 1981 Olympias are some of the exception along with 1972.