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12-17-2017, 08:03 AM #1
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Does Bodybuilding Have a Harvey Weinstein?
Ok Arnold's probably up there but what about other stories of sex addiction and abuse of power for sexual means?
Do these anecdotes about judges getting sexual favors from competitors have any truth to them?
We know bodybuilders have been in porn movies both straight and gay, why did they do it?
What's going on out there? Are there as many schmoes as ever.
I'm sure there's a good sex book on bodybuilding if anybody ever took the time to write it.Last edited by hifrommike65; 12-17-2017 at 09:40 AM. Reason: light edit
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12-17-2017, 09:10 AM #2
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What I've heard is quite the opposite: when a competitor heard a competition judge was gay, he knocked on the judge's door at the hotel the night before the show & offered his favors for a higher placing. He was told to go away.
There were loads of rumors about the Weider brothers, but no one seemed to have proof, & evidently the rumors were spread by people who hadn't been able to win their shows.
There's a lot of sex in the novel Stay Hungry by Charles Gaines (Doubleday, 1972; reissued by Bantam Books, 1974), including sex in the gym with women hanging around male bodybuilders. Overall, it's the best fictional description of the iron game I know of. (Gaines later went on to do the text for Pumping Iron: The Art & Sport of Bodybuilding [Simon & Schuster, 1974], which also has excellent descriptions of bodybuilding lifestyle & competition. George Butler did the photography, & was treated as a coauthor. Butler directed the 1977 documentary feature film.)
Speaking of The Iron Game, that was the title of a self-published tell-all novel about G4P written by David Carter in 1976. I wouldn't say it's a good book, but it has a lot of info on the underworld of hustling, sexual favors, & posing naked for photographers who got pix into magazines.
The private membership website (pay to join) has connected a number of FBBs to their fans, after the demise of pro women's bodybuilding competition. I have never been comfortable w/ the term "schmoe," as it is often used as a general insult for anyone a bodybuilder doesn't like.
As for bodybuilders in porn, it's all over Pornhub & other sites like that. I would say it's just a way to make money. For some, it's a way of advertising their online hustling. For FBBs, it's a way to lure people to their for-pay websites. A lot of it is solo posing. A lot of posing videos on YouTube try to set up Skype pay sessions w/ fans, or get them to their for-pay websites.Last edited by hifrommike65; 12-17-2017 at 09:41 AM.
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12-17-2017, 10:44 AM #3
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12-17-2017, 01:52 PM #4
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Was there ever any evidence of credible stories that Joe Weider was gay? I heard that rumour a few times but never saw enough in the stories to say whether it is true or not.
I remember reading that every bodybuilding photographer in the golden era of the 1970's was gay.
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12-17-2017, 02:40 PM #5
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Schwarzenegger, then 29 and newly famous as the star of the bodybuilding documentary ”Pumping Iron,” spoke of one encounter at a Los Angeles gym where ”there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together.” Everybody, that is, who could still get aroused while performing in front of other men, he said, though he used more colorful language.
Before competing, he said, ”I get laid on purpose. I can’t sleep before a competition and I’m up all night, anyway, so instead of staring at the ceiling I figure I might as well find somebody and f—.” In fact, at the 1972 Mr. Olympia finals, he said, ”we had girls backstage giving [oral sex], then all of us went out and I won. It didn’t bother me at all; in fact, I went out there feeling like King Kong.”
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12-17-2017, 04:30 PM #6
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In the late '90s, the hottest online rumor was that both Joe & Ben Weider were gay. The people who promoted this rumor could never produce any proof other than someone they had heard of claimed someone they knew had evidence of it. I didn't consider any of it credible then, & still don't.
As for "every bodybuilding photographer of the '70s," are we going to go back & check the bedroom histories of all of them? I never heard anything that led me to believe the best of them, George Butler, was gay. The second best of them, who worked under the name Rip Colt, obviously was, but he did not require "personal favors" from bodybuilders--he paid them their modeling fee & showed them the door.Last edited by hifrommike65; 12-17-2017 at 04:32 PM.
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12-17-2017, 05:03 PM #7
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12-17-2017, 11:47 PM #8
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I never heard that rumor & have no reason to believe it. I do not believe the Weiders were secretly homosexual. I was aware of the drug-sex parties that Craig Titus staged after the NPC USA & Olympia shows in Las Vegas. It was not exactly a secret.
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