Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 16
  1. #1
    OLYMPIAN PTB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Somerset, NJ
    Posts
    3,070
    Rep Power
    2132700

    Default The Pornographication of Fitness Needs to Stop? Agree or Disagree?

    Valid points? or bitter ex-competitor?


    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tosca-reno/bikini-fitness_b_5610782.html

  2. #2
    OLYMPIAN
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    1,330
    Rep Power
    2147627

    Default

    It hardly a new thing......Joe Weider published several gay magazines after the 2nd world war that showed bodybuilders without their underpants on.

    Was Joe gay or would he do just about anything to make a buck?

  3. #3
    FREAK Swiper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,371
    Rep Power
    2147748

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PTB View Post
    Valid points? or bitter ex-competitor?


    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tosca-reno/bikini-fitness_b_5610782.html
    can you post some pics as an example?

  4. #4
    OLYMPIAN
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    1,330
    Rep Power
    2147627

  5. #5
    OLYMPIAN AlexG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The High Castle
    Posts
    872
    Rep Power
    2147687

    Default

    Old story, basic 101 of marketing - sex sells.

    I can recall starting back in the 90s Weider pushed the Power and Sizzle centerfold section in FLEX that featured female bodybuilders and fitness women. Had a Playboy / Vargas genteel style of posing w/o any full frontal nudity.

    Then there was MEM (Muscle Elegance Magazine) that Denise Masino published.
    Last edited by AlexG; 12-20-2017 at 11:06 AM.
    Now there's something you don't see everyday. ~ Deep Rising (1998)

  6. #6
    OLYMPIAN
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    1,330
    Rep Power
    2147627

    Default

    Weider capitalising on homosexuality is old news but it needs to be remembered.

    Like Wayne DeMilia said about dwindling audiences , "You know you're going the wrong way when the homosexuals say, 'We're not coming either.' "


    Bodybuilding is the gayest "sport" of all time. Golds gym Venice has always been a mecca of homosexuality.

    Weider was up to his balls in it.

  7. #7
    RX MEMBER
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    11,832
    Rep Power
    2146989

    Default

    It doesn't take a genius to figure out that bodybuilding has a homoerotic appeal. On the other hand, so do gainers (those who get extremely fat as a fetish). If you type "bodybuilder" into a Google search, you're going to get sexually oriented hits on the first page. So what? That doesn't devalue bodybuilding in & of itself. For some it's a fetish. Most gay people are completely indifferent to bodybuilders. Most people don't give a fig for bodybuilders, & most don't even like the look or the idea of it. For some people, it's a lifestyle & way of improving their health. For a few, it's a form of body modification (e.g., Rich Piana). Why can't bodybuilding be different things to different people? I just don't see what the big deal is.
    Last edited by hifrommike65; 12-20-2017 at 04:18 PM.

  8. #8
    OLYMPIAN
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    1,330
    Rep Power
    2147627

    Default

    Bodybuilding has very little merit.

    Only training to be stronger and fitter drug free has any merit to it, the rest of bodybuilding is a cess pool of depravity.

  9. #9
    musclesportmag.com Joe Pietaro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    1,454
    Rep Power
    2147694

    Default

    Back during the Bob Hoffman - Joe Weider magazine wars, Hoffman would make fun of bodybuilding and Weider, calling it a gay sport. Strength & Health was more of a weight lifting/overall fitness publication. (Judging by the cover if that Adonis mag, old Hoffman had a point.)

  10. #10
    RX MEMBER
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    11,832
    Rep Power
    2146989

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Beat View Post
    Bodybuilding has very little merit.
    If you believe this to be true, why are you even here?
    Last edited by hifrommike65; 12-20-2017 at 04:20 PM.

  11. #11
    OLYMPIAN BananaHammock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,891
    Rep Power
    2147765

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hifrommike65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Beat View Post
    Bodybuilding has very little merit.
    If you believe this to be true, why are you even here?
    Trying to convert the ones lead astray?

  12. #12
    OLYMPIAN KnightXavi's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Eastern North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    377
    Rep Power
    2061426

    Default

    Tosca Reno. That's Robert Kennedy's(MuscleMag International) widow.

    tr-water.jpg
    toscareno+bikini+5.jpg
    Last edited by KnightXavi; 12-20-2017 at 11:23 PM.
    "What’s sauce for the gander is also sauce for the goose." - Unknown.

  13. #13
    OLYMPIAN Femphysiquefan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lafayette, IN
    Posts
    929
    Rep Power
    1499349

    Default

    There is always going to be a sexual or erotic aspect to the appeal of muscle; there always has been and always will be. A fit, athletic body is sexually appealing. Period. You could argue that it's pretty much hardwired into our biology. Some definitely play that aspect up more than others for the purpose of selling their products like she describes in the article, but does she realize that there are people out there who would say that SHE would be guilty of helping to "pornographize" the industry, regardless of what steps she took personally to minimize that aspect?? There are some who say ANY display of skin is pornographic. She's trying to distance herself from those "other girls" without realizing that others could point to HER as being an example of the "pornographizing" of the fitness industry.

    The only way I can see that you could completely eliminate the sexual/erotic aspect of muscle is to require everyone to wear full burkas, and then what's the point of doing that while at the same time being involved in an industry which by default involves the display of the human body??
    "A worthy woman who can find? For her value is far above rubies. She girds herself with strength, and makes her arms strong." -Proverbs 31: 10, 17

  14. #14
    OLYMPIAN BananaHammock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,891
    Rep Power
    2147765

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightXavi View Post
    Tosca Reno. That's Robert Kennedy's(MuscleMag International) widow.

    tr-water.jpg
    toscareno+bikini+5.jpg
    Bone worthy

  15. #15
    OLYMPIAN MusclePoppins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,263
    Rep Power
    2147630

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Beat View Post
    Bodybuilding has very little merit.

    Only training to be stronger and fitter drug free has any merit to it, the rest of bodybuilding is a cess pool of depravity.
    So if your momma got pregnant with your ass while she was high you have no merit?
    - BODYBUILDING -
    It's A Package Deal

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

X vBulletin 4.2.3 Debug Information

  • Page Generation 1.42217 seconds
  • Memory Usage 7,299KB
  • Queries Executed 26 (?)
More Information
Template Usage (43):
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_global_above_footer
  • (1)ad_global_below_navbar
  • (1)ad_global_header1
  • (1)ad_global_header2
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (1)ad_thread_first_post_content
  • (1)ad_thread_last_post_content
  • (6)bbcode_quote
  • (4)block_html
  • (1)block_threads
  • (1)facebook_footer
  • (1)facebook_header
  • (1)facebook_likebutton
  • (1)facebook_opengraph
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)headinclude_bottom
  • (15)memberaction_dropdown
  • (1)navbar
  • (4)navbar_link
  • (1)navbar_noticebit
  • (1)navbar_tabs
  • (3)option
  • (1)pagenav
  • (1)pagenav_curpage
  • (1)pagenav_pagelink
  • (15)postbit_legacy
  • (15)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (15)postbit_wrapper
  • (3)showthread_bookmarksite
  • (1)sidebarext_temp
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available (6):
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files (37):
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_navigation.php
  • ./includes/class_friendly_url.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap_framework.php
  • ./vb/vb.php
  • ./vb/phrase.php
  • ./includes/class_facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/base_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/class_block.php
  • ./includes/block/html.php
  • ./vb/context.php
  • ./vb/cache.php
  • ./vb/cache/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer.php
  • ./includes/functions_notice.php
  • ./includes/block/threads.php
  • ./packages/vbattach/attach.php
  • ./vb/types.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/postbit_display_complete.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/showthread_complete.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner.php
  • ./mobiquo/include/classTTConnection.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner/head.inc.php 

Hooks Called (78):
  • init_startup
  • database_pre_fetch_array
  • database_post_fetch_array
  • friendlyurl_resolve_class
  • global_bootstrap_init_start
  • global_bootstrap_init_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • load_show_variables
  • load_forum_show_variables
  • global_state_check
  • global_bootstrap_complete
  • global_start
  • style_fetch
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • cache_templates
  • cache_templates_process
  • template_register_var
  • template_render_output
  • fetch_template_start
  • fetch_template_complete
  • friendlyurl_clean_fragment
  • friendlyurl_geturl
  • fb_canonical_url
  • fb_opengraph_array
  • parse_templates
  • fetch_musername
  • notices_check_start
  • notices_noticebit
  • process_templates_complete
  • showthread_getinfo
  • strip_bbcode
  • forumjump
  • friendlyurl_redirect_canonical
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • fetch_postattach_query
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • reputation_power
  • reputation_image
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • memberaction_dropdown
  • bbcode_img_match
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • build_navigation_data
  • build_navigation_array
  • check_navigation_permission
  • process_navigation_links_start
  • process_navigation_links_complete
  • set_navigation_menu_element
  • build_navigation_menudata
  • build_navigation_listdata
  • build_navigation_list
  • set_navigation_tab_main
  • set_navigation_tab_fallback
  • navigation_tab_complete
  • fb_publish_checkbox
  • fb_like_button
  • showthread_complete
  • page_templates