Is it just me , or do...

**zachdg** · 07-25-2009, 01:05 PM

Is it just me, or do athletes who leave Dave P end up always looking and placing worse than they had before. With the exception of Evan, look at the track list: Jeff Long, Todd Jewell, Sean Allen, Eugene Mishin, Toney Freeman (when he left), list goes on.............just a thought.

Big Barry · 07-25-2009, 01:41 PM

If I remember correctly when Tony Freeman left Dave his placings where markedly worse, when he began working with Dave again he won shows again. I remember 'Bob chic' commentating on a show in which all the bodybuilders looked exhausted after their posing but Freeman was bouncing up and down then began doing push-up's. Bob said "Well so much for lack of energy on the low-carb diet" I thought that was big props to Dave!!

**buster12** · 07-25-2009, 01:45 PM

yes. the list seems to go on of people doing worse after leaving dave. Notably his ex-athletes show up in far worse condition than when they worked with him.

**zachdg** · 07-25-2009, 03:04 PM

Looking at the pics of the USA's, Todd Jewell, Jeff Long, and Sean Allen all look like shit. Shouldnt have gotten so over zealous and just realized they had a good thing going with Dave.

**SlimTim** · 07-25-2009, 03:19 PM

They all say the same ridiculous statements too "the keto diet didnt work for my body" "my body needs carbs" "Im too big and lose too much muscle on the keto diet". Its all retarded, look at the above mentioned names, and sure they came in fuller, but they look terrible, especially BSA and Todd Jewell, they are both way off. When both of them were on video bragging about coming into the USA's at 280-290 I knew they were gonna come into this show out of shape.

**DAVIDHARDY** · 07-25-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by timm

They all say the same ridiculous statements too "the keto diet didnt work for my body" "my body needs carbs" "Im too big and lose too much muscle on the keto diet". Its all retarded, look at the above mentioned names, and sure they came in fuller, but they look terrible, especially BSA and Todd Jewell, they are both way off. When both of them were on video bragging about coming into the USA's at 280-290 I knew they were gonna come into this show out of shape.

Dave always says that shredded wins shows!

**zachdg** · 07-25-2009, 05:07 PM

According to Todd Jewell, "the keto diet made me look stringy". uh....its not called stringy fella, its called CONDITIONED. Now he looks like straight up string cheese. Over carbed my ass, its called fat you dult! And jeff Long, didnt he place 2nd at the nationals or jrs last year, and he switches nutritionists?!? IT just pisses me off that when these athletes work with dave, come in conditioned as shit, do well, and than leave him in hopes of something better. When you've found something that works, KEEP IT. You DONT need carbs you dults!! Your smooth asses arent getting you anywhere haha. Just venting my thoughts thats all..

**DAVIDHARDY** · 07-25-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by zachdg

According to Todd Jewell, "the keto diet made me look stringy". uh....its not called stringy fella, its called CONDITIONED. Now he looks like straight up string cheese. Over carbed my ass, its called fat you dult! And jeff Long, didnt he place 2nd at the nationals or jrs last year, and he switches nutritionists?!? IT just pisses me off that when these athletes work with dave, come in conditioned as shit, do well, and than leave him in hopes of something better. When you've found something that works, KEEP IT. You DONT need carbs you dults!! Your smooth asses arent getting you anywhere haha. Just venting my thoughts thats all..

What's wrong with smooth asses???

**Zetawill** · 07-25-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by hardc0rehardy5

What's wrong with smooth asses???

Could zachgd be a fake account for SteveB?
Does he did striated glutes too much?
Why would he bring up smooth asses instead of muffin tops or love handles?

Stay tuned for Steve Blech.....I mean zachgd's answer!!!

**ANADROLicfreak** · 07-25-2009, 05:46 PM

they dont know what a good thing is.im sure they get tired of the diet and long hours of cardio.if it was easy everyone would look good though.you have to suffer a little.

**ANADROLicfreak** · 07-25-2009, 05:57 PM

just looked at the pre judging pics of bsa jewell and jeff long.man.they all need dave lol

**Leigh Carmichael** · 07-25-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by BigBarryBell

I remember 'Bob chic' commentating on a show in which all the bodybuilders looked exhausted after their posing but Freeman was bouncing up and down then began doing push-up's. Bob said "Well so much for lack of energy on the low-carb diet" I thought that was big props to Dave!!

Not sure if this was the show, but I was at the Olympia last year and Freeman was bouncing away to the music that was playing during the pre-judging. Had so much energy and he looked sick. He didn't stop moving the whole time, it was great to see. The other guys looked half dead.

Big Barry · 07-25-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Leigh

Not sure if this was the show, but I was at the Olympia last year and Freeman was bouncing away to the music that was playing during the pre-judging. Had so much energy and he looked sick. He didn't stop moving the whole time, it was great to see. The other guys looked half dead.

Yeah, it flies in the face of all the people who believe you have 'no energy' on the keto diet, Freeman was fucking hyperactive. Doing push-ups when everyone else is dying is hilarious!!

**davidyes** · 07-25-2009, 06:48 PM

I find that more of Palumbo's heavyweight and super heavyweight athletes decide to go a different route. They all want to be the biggest guy on stage but they end up sacrificing conditioning for it. As a result, they tend to look worse.

**zachdg** · 07-25-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Zetawill

Could zachgd be a fake account for SteveB?
Does he did striated glutes too much?
Why would he bring up smooth asses instead of muffin tops or love handles?

Stay tuned for Steve Blech.....I mean zachgd's answer!!!

Haha you caught me Zeta!!!