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    am on a standard dose of 300ml of T with Arimidex each week. I know that this is not a large dose, but it is what I have access to. I competed as a natural for 15 years after training for 10 years prior (I’m in my late 40’s). I made my best gains post competing when I started my current dosage. Soon I am able To train and eat as I like with no work or interruptions for two months. I am wondering what people would suggest for making gains in this 8 week period in terms of food and training. Currently 235lbs at around 18% BF and eating only slightly clean. Training 4 days a week with a modified dog crap style. Wanting to try and make some gains above and beyond during this rare 8 week break where I have few distractions. Thoughts on what has worked best for you? I am limited in what I have access to for gear but able to train balls to the wall. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! 🙏

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    Hello Sir,
    you already have a training plan set up so I am wondering do you need advice in the regard just with the nutrition part?
    Also what specifically you want to know as far as bulking goes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fella Finn View Post
    Hello Sir,
    you already have a training plan set up so I am wondering do you need advice in the regard just with the nutrition part?
    Also what specifically you want to know as far as bulking goes?
    Sorry, was on the road. What I am wondering is what others have had success with for making gains in terms of diet and training methods. I have a rare 8 week window to train balls to the wall. I currently use what I can best describe as a combo of doggcrapp and FST7. I’m planning on upping my protein and addingtwo shake meals a day and probably adding a training day (from 4 to 5) if my body can take it.

    Just St wanted to hear what others have had success with.

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    As you probably understand bodybuilding is a long term process and you can only build so much muscle in few months.

    Obviously you can put a lot of weight by eating like a maniac but how much is that going to yield "quality gains" is the next question. And probably not very reasonable from health perspective either.

    For maximum muscle gains I still wouldn't go all out with the caloric intake unless you don't care about putting a lot of other mess as well.

    As far as training goes try to train each body parts as often as your recovery abilities allows. Keep in mind that the more often you train the more careful you need to be with your overall volume.

    In case you need more in-depth guidance for training programming and nutrition hit me up, I'd be happy to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_sco View Post
    Thoughts on what has worked best for you? I am limited in what I have access to for gear but able to train balls to the wall. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! ��
    Wtf do I know? Nothing. But one man I respect is John Meadows. I would seek out his YouTube channel and his training recommendations.

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    I have to second John Meadows as a resource. I’ve used his Mountaindog Training program multiple times and with phenomenal results! I will say part of the success I had was each time I started the program I was either stage lean or pretty close to it, so I was freaky anabolic out of the starting gate. I set it up for 6 days a week and I went lights-out intensity for a solid 20 weeks because I’m a sicko volume-intensity junkie.

    If you’re already doing DC and FST 7 you’ll enjoy the intensity he throws in for the last few weeks. It’s a 12 week program but you can customize it any way you like. Depending on how much volume you already do, you might want to just skip Phase 1 and jump straight into Phase 2. The T-Nation website has all of John’s articles on the program for free. Just get on the site and search him as the author.

    As far as diet, I just stopped all cardio and ate my precontest diet and grew like a weed. Done right, you’re doing so much work that you won’t need much cardio if any.

    I also used EAAs intra-workout. The brand I used 10 years ago doesn’t exist anymore. For several years now I’ve been using Granite Keto Factor (Granite is John Meadows’ company btw) and I can’t say enough great things about the products, especially Keto Factor.

    Hope that helps!

    Keep us posted on what program and diet you decide to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyday View Post
    I have to second John Meadows as a resource. I’ve used his Mountaindog Training program multiple times and with phenomenal results! I will say part of the success I had was each time I started the program I was either stage lean or pretty close to it, so I was freaky anabolic out of the starting gate. I set it up for 6 days a week and I went lights-out intensity for a solid 20 weeks because I’m a sicko volume-intensity junkie.

    If you’re already doing DC and FST 7 you’ll enjoy the intensity he throws in for the last few weeks. It’s a 12 week program but you can customize it any way you like. Depending on how much volume you already do, you might want to just skip Phase 1 and jump straight into Phase 2. The T-Nation website has all of John’s articles on the program for free. Just get on the site and search him as the author.

    As far as diet, I just stopped all cardio and ate my precontest diet and grew like a weed. Done right, you’re doing so much work that you won’t need much cardio if any.

    I also used EAAs intra-workout. The brand I used 10 years ago doesn’t exist anymore. For several years now I’ve been using Granite Keto Factor (Granite is John Meadows’ company btw) and I can’t say enough great things about the products, especially Keto Factor.

    Hope that helps!

    Keep us posted on what program and diet you decide to follow.

    I cant say enough good things about JOHN MEADOWS, the man is brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I cant say enough good things about JOHN MEADOWS, the man is brilliant.
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    Robert Kennedy's Musclemag International once ran an article by an over-40 bodybuilder who said, "You can't do what you useta do in the gym; make adjustments & listen to your body at all times." In other words, don't lift as heavy, but lift w/ good form & consistency & you'll get results. Those who can lift heavy after age 40 probably have strong tendons, but not everyone does. Injuries are harder to recover from at that age. Hormones are going down as well, which means TRT (or the equivalent) is helpful. Some people can get away w/ not eating clean in the off-season, & some can't (metabolisms differ). Look at everyone's advice, use trial & error, & see what works for you. Bodybuilding is always a work in progress. There is no off season for trainers who plan to compete. Good luck.
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