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Thread: Tyler Skaggs OD

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    Unhappy Tyler Skaggs OD

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...I?ocid=BHEA000

    The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim states categorically that no one associated w/ the team was aware of any illicit drug use by a player, & anyone on the team who did see illicit drug use was looking in the wrong direction when he was not supposed to be.
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    I am not mocking the Angels, a team I have always liked since I started following MLB in 1997. The rally monkey was one of the most amusing things associated w/ a team.



    I can understand the team's circling the wagons & denying knowledge of drug use. I had to do it once for the place I worked at. Admission of knowledge of drug use puts the team at liability for hundreds of millions of dollars in a lawsuit.
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    ESPN report of a press conference.

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    The player who got me into baseball in 1997 was Ken Caminiti, who struggled w/ substance abuse until he died of it on 10 October 2004. I do not regard his use of anabolics to be substance abuse, however. He used anabolics for professional achievement. He's been called a cheater, but I don't regard him or other baseball players in the "steroid era" as cheaters. Anabolics helped bring MLB back from a devastating players' strike in 1994. No, it was not the only thing that brought MLB back, but it had an impact on its going big again (I mean the home run chase), & drug use was tacitly supported by the teams themselves. Caminiti was exhibit A for anabolics in MLB. Exhibit B was Big Mac & Sosa. Exhibit C was Bonds & Balco. By that point, Caminiti was out of MLB, kicked out of his house by his wife, who divorced him, cut him off from his kids, & let him languish w/ skid row druggies until he died of a heroin OD. Then she went onto the field in a MLB stadium & accepted tokens of consolation to make grieving fans feel better. I will never forgive her for that.
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    I am not trying to turn this into a Caminiti thread, but I want to clarify what I meant by him struggling w/ substance abuse. He was an alcoholic & used both over-the-counter & prescription painkillers to try to deal w/ baseball-related injuries. I once saw him fall down in the batter's box when he swung at a pitch in the 1998 World Series. He was in that much pain. To hide his drinking, he went to the bar front in restaurants & had vodka put into a water glass. (Vodka is hard to detect on the breath.) He also used cocaine, & eventually drifted into heroin. I guess you could argue that he overdid it on anabolic use; he once returned from the off-season w/ 40 pounds of muscle he didn't have going into it. He had an addictive personality, a lot of money, & access. When he died he was supposedly in recovery, but his girl friend at the time had a history of drug use (they met in rehab) & her brother sold drugs. Caminiti had heroin & cocaine in his system when he died. His recovery did not happen.
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    To the announcer: don't say "rehab"!

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