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    Okay I've heard a lot before that breakfast should be the largest meal when it comes to body composition. Is there any research to back this up? If so, are the effects through suppressed appetite for the rest of the day or some other mechanism?

    I've also heard that the composition of breakfast can affect insulin sensitivity for the rest of the day. Is this true as well?

    Also I've read but can't remember where that breakfast will also affect cognitive ability for the entire day. Again any truth to this?


    For me personally I like a large breakfast. Something big and satisfying, FOR ME low carb and stimulating proteins....for example 10 eggs and maybe a few strips of bacon (the bacon just for taste ) I'm also interested in something like this for appetite control because I have a hard time not eating too much meat and eggs when gaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    Okay I've heard a lot before that breakfast should be the largest meal when it comes to body composition. Is there any research to back this up? If so, are the effects through suppressed appetite for the rest of the day or some other mechanism?

    I've also heard that the composition of breakfast can affect insulin sensitivity for the rest of the day. Is this true as well?

    Also I've read but can't remember where that breakfast will also affect cognitive ability for the entire day. Again any truth to this?


    For me personally I like a large breakfast. Something big and satisfying, FOR ME low carb and stimulating proteins....for example 10 eggs and maybe a few strips of bacon (the bacon just for taste ) I'm also interested in something like this for appetite control because I have a hard time not eating too much meat and eggs when gaining.
    Ive always heard calories should be spread out equally throughout the day.. Ive never heard of 1 meal having to bigger then all the rest.

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    From a calorie balance stand-point it makes sense for breakfast to be large. You didn't eat for at least 8 hours.

    And for me one really big issue is the appetite thing. Small breakfast means I'm hungry more during the day, so if I can eat a big breakfast and be more satisfied that would help tremendously on a mass gaining diet.

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    Also considering nutrient timing, which is something John Berardi has really brought to attention. One major concept was carb timing and because insulin sensitivity is higher in the morning to have more carbs with breakfast, and especially more in the post-workout period. So I was thinking for me even on a low carb diet, if sensitivity to food intake is better in the morning along with the highest negative calorie balance at this time, it seems to make sense to have a larger breakfast for lean mass gains.

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    I have no appetite at all in the morning so I never have a big breakfast.. majority of the time its only a shake and 2 pieces of ezekiel bread.

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    Well it would also make sense to listen to your body to an extent. But then again if you eat a lot at night are you going to be hungry in the morning? But if that's not the case I don't believe in force-feeding the body in the morning. For me I wake up very hungry and I love a big breakfast....even if I eat a lot at night lol. I like to think that listening to the body to a degree is a smart thing and perhaps for me at least having a breakfast larger than other meals might be a good thing.

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    I have always felt Breakfast and post workout meals are your two meals of the day where you can be a little liberal whether it be extra carbs/calories (maybe even fruit). Plus I always followed the old school sliced book and that goes on the principal of tapering your calories over your meals to the end of the day. I don't necessarily taper but I do time more carbs at breakfast or post workout. The way I see it is your body's best burning ability is early in the day after not eating all night and when you are going to be the most active so you need and will burn the fuel... as opossed to meals after 4pm I try to cut carbs and calories as you are less active and preparing for sleep and don't wish to store calories/fat.

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    i dont think breakfast needs to be any bigger than any other meal you would eat throughout the day. breakfast for me is usually 8 eggwhites and 2 whole eggs with 1 cup oatmeal and vitamins etc. and from time to time i will drink eggwhites instead and just add 2 tblspoon of olive oil to get fats. if your worried about body burning muscle over that 8hour spread of not eating maybe you could add casein protein shake before bed?

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    I dont see a single citation of a controlled study on the subject. It's kind of hard to call this thread science if noone uses rigorously obtained facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pangloss View Post
    I dont see a single citation of a controlled study on the subject. It's kind of hard to call this thread science if noone uses rigorously obtained facts.

    What's what I was trying to see if there is any data to support or disprove this We can talk theory all day long but it comes down to whether it works or not.

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    Best to start searching the literature then.

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    Wow thanks then this forum is fucking useless. Thanks for the input. We all should just go read literature.

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    that's right bro. I'm not your fucking tool.

    You need to learn to think for yourself.

    Given your politics, it's clear that you find the idea of thinking for yourself too difficult to grasp.

    good luck with your bodybuilding.

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    Yeah thanks because we're not here to share information. We all share information with each other and that's what these forums are for. Go stay in the politics forum if you're just going to come in here only to tell people that you're not going to help them. That's fucking retarded.

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    I'm not going to pollute my friend TPT's forum anymore.


    I'm out.


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