DC Training

[bigtimektz]

My gains have been substantial. As far as gain in lbm, thats not that drastic, but my changes have been very recomposing. Ive dropped fat, gained muscle. Ive been training consistantly since day 1 in the gym, and eating to match for an equal length. About 3.5 years all told.

I dont want to sound like a d bag, but I would consider my BB'ing knowledge and level far above and beyond that of my peers in college right now. I just wish it would reflect in my physique. I consider myself sub par genetically when it comes to adding size (especially being 6'5"), although when size comes, I have good muscle bellies. But regardless of diffuculty getting huge in a hurry, Im probably top 5 in my large dorm building at UB, bb'ing wise.

I approach BB'ing with passion, lift hard, eat hard, and study my balls off when it comes to emerging training, dieting, and supplementation info.




My reps right now are usually low for my first movement, and raise as I go onward. I keep heaving lifting in year round. But Im not going to start DC with zero carbs, while trying to diet down to contest condition for the first time. I really dont need another monkey wrench you know?

You don't sound like a d-bag. You sound like you a good head on your shoulders. Don't get to concerned about your knowledge reflecting onto your physique. I have been lifting for about 5 years and after the first 2 years my gains were minimal. This past year I have really developed due to getting my diet in check and changing my training and being consistent with everything.

If you have been training for 3.5 years you could be ready for DC. If you know what a DC program entails then only you can tell if your ready to devote yourself to the program.
Are you the same chasebny from MD?

[buster12]

You don't sound like a d-bag. You sound like you a good head on your shoulders. Don't get to concerned about your knowledge reflecting onto your physique. I have been lifting for about 5 years and after the first 2 years my gains were minimal. This past year I have really developed due to getting my diet in check and changing my training and being consistent with everything.

If you have been training for 3.5 years you could be ready for DC. If you know what a DC program entails then only you can tell if your ready to devote yourself to the program.
Are you the same chasebny from MD?

he is. I gotta agree with you. All my years in highschool I wasn't even that big. Mostly because it is hard to keep a good diet in high school. I've started noticing all my development this year.

[chasebny]

You don't sound like a d-bag. You sound like you a good head on your shoulders. Don't get to concerned about your knowledge reflecting onto your physique. I have been lifting for about 5 years and after the first 2 years my gains were minimal. This past year I have really developed due to getting my diet in check and changing my training and being consistent with everything.

If you have been training for 3.5 years you could be ready for DC. If you know what a DC program entails then only you can tell if your ready to devote yourself to the program.
Are you the same chasebny from MD?

Im 100% devoted to training and dieting, I was just doing it wrong for a while. I needed more fats in the offseason, I completely ignored them.

Yes, I am the same chase from MD.

[almard]

Please formulate some sentences and complete thoughts for us to respond to inside this DC thread. Thank you.

Huh, Will sorry if my post was not easy for you to read it...I'm in body building bord, not english class.....However, I will write full of boring sentences to make you understand my pointsnext time ....

[almard]

Thats a lot of weight for a lot of reps, how much do you weigh? How deep are you going on your squats? When i used to go parallel the best i could do was 455 for 10, now i do them ass to grass with 365 for 8, im 210 lbs right now and i should be at the top of middle weight class next spring...my point is the weight might be impressive and it is no doubt but there are a lot more variables you havent mentioned...

I'm 5,7 230 with 10-12% body fat...not that big. and yes my squats is all the way down...I was in the three way spilt and my gains wasn't that much to be honest , so I switched back to the two way spilt, and I can tell i'm getting stonger a lmost evey week....even thought i'm sore as hell....LOL..good luck bro...

[bigtimektz]

Huh, Will sorry if my post was not easy for you to read it...I'm in body building bord, not english class.....However, I will write full of boring sentences to make you understand my pointsnext time ....

As i said above, I was just busting your balls. No harm intended.

[bigtimektz]

Im 100% devoted to training and dieting, I was just doing it wrong for a while. I needed more fats in the offseason, I completely ignored them.

Yes, I am the same chase from MD.

Now that you think you have things dialed in properly, you need to give it some time to produce the right results. Good luck.

[chasebny]

Now that you think you have things dialed in properly, you need to give it some time to produce the right results. Good luck.

Hopefully those added calories will help once Im done dieting. Thanks for the well wishes.

Few questions for DC'ers. What do you consider beneficial supps for DC?

Diet wise, what suits the program?
Im well versed on Dantes thoughts on diets, but Im curious for other opinions.

Also, for someone who has advanced beyond a 5x5, but isnt ready for DC, what would you suggest?

Just trying to get some convo going here.

[captaincardio58]

Hopefully those added calories will help once Im done dieting. Thanks for the well wishes.

Few questions for DC'ers. What do you consider beneficial supps for DC?

Diet wise, what suits the program?
Im well versed on Dantes thoughts on diets, but Im curious for other opinions.

Also, for someone who has advanced beyond a 5x5, but isnt ready for DC, what would you suggest?

Just trying to get some convo going here.

The diet should reflect what you wanna do ... if you wanna put size on like in off season mode you need some good calories and lots of them, the 2 years ive used dc ived hired dave to pre contest prep and still made moderate gains while dieting, offseason i follow daves plan but i tweek it, i only have mycarbs in the morning pre and post workout all the rest is protein fats and fibers... before i went to DC i was a HIT guy, similiar to dorians philosophy not mentzers, all in all a good bodybuilding program is a strenght program so what ever system you chose ide be making sure my strength is on the positive curve...good luck

[buster12]

The diet should reflect what you wanna do ... if you wanna put size on like in off season mode you need some good calories and lots of them, the 2 years ive used dc ived hired dave to pre contest prep and still made moderate gains while dieting, offseason i follow daves plan but i tweek it, i only have mycarbs in the morning pre and post workout all the rest is protein fats and fibers... before i went to DC i was a HIT guy, similiar to dorians philosophy not mentzers, all in all a good bodybuilding program is a strenght program so what ever system you chose ide be making sure my strength is on the positive curve...good luck

nice. I've actually lowered my carbs this off season too. I feel like I dont really need as much carbs with DC.

[bigtimektz]

The diet should reflect what you wanna do ... if you wanna put size on like in off season mode you need some good calories and lots of them, the 2 years ive used dc ived hired dave to pre contest prep and still made moderate gains while dieting, offseason i follow daves plan but i tweek it, i only have mycarbs in the morning pre and post workout all the rest is protein fats and fibers... before i went to DC i was a HIT guy, similiar to dorians philosophy not mentzers, all in all a good bodybuilding program is a strenght program so what ever system you chose ide be making sure my strength is on the positive curve...good luck

Solid advice here, well put.

[chasebny]

So you guys think that carb intensive diets arent anymore beneficial to DC? I figured that the strength increasing focus would make carbs a must.

What about supps?

I understand that diets differ from off season to dieting, but do you think certain diets for either phase match DC betterr than another.

[almard]

It depens about your metabilosm, what body type, ....ect. some people can get a way with carbs every meal, and some can have only in the morning, pre, post workout...what works for you may not works for others.....

[buster12]

It depens about your metabilosm, what body type, ....ect. some people can get a way with carbs every meal, and some can have only in the morning, pre, post workout...what works for you may not works for others.....

I would be the latter of the two. I have carbs in 4 of my 6 meals.
Chasbny , I get what your saying as well, but I have no trouble making strength gains on moderate carbs. I really feel that carbs are better for high volume training...( just my personal opinion)

[Myth]

I did dc on keto with great success