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    Quote Originally Posted by 8itup View Post
    Eff'n Iphone! Today was third cycle through a DC program and I was on my second to last exersize logging it (reps and lbs) and the damn note pad copy pasted something? Lost both A and B days of 3 dif exersize per body part.

    I was so jacked to go after new targets tomorrow and now its back to square 1 gotta log all of it again.

    Note to self email note pad log at the end of each day. I had this happen once before doing GVT.

    Just had to vent!

    Thats why I use a log book!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by v1hyp View Post
    Thats why I use a log book!!

    I used to use a log book but the Iphone works fine "as long as I email my log to myself a few times a week" I just got lazy.

    Upside I went back through a lot of DC info last night and picked up some things I was doing wrong.

    Also, liked this as a mem jogger to pick 3 lifts for rotation:

    CHEST
    incline smythe
    decline smythe
    hammer strength press (incline and decline)
    other good machine press
    incline barbell
    decline barbell
    incline dumbbell press
    flat dumbbell press
    decline dumbbell press

    SHOULDERS
    smythe presses to front
    smythe presses to back of head
    hammer strength press
    other good machine press
    barbell press to front
    barbell press to back of head
    dumbbell shoulder press

    TRICEPS
    close grip bench in smythe
    reverse grip bench in smythe
    skull crushers
    dips (in upright position)

    BACK WIDTH
    rack chins to front
    rack chins to back of head
    reverse grip rack chins (close grip)
    assisted pullups
    hammer strength "pulldown" machines
    other good "pulldown" machines
    pull downs to front
    pull downs to back of head

    BACK THICKNESS
    deadlift
    rack deadlift
    T-bar rows
    smythe rows
    barbell rows

    BICEPS
    barbell curls
    alternate dumbbell curls
    barbell preacher curls
    hammer strength machine curls
    other good machine curls
    cable curls
    incline db curls
    close grip ez-bar preacher curls
    standing medium grip ez-bar curls

    FOREARMS
    hammer curls (alternated)
    pinwheel curls (alternated)
    reverse grip one arm cable curls

    CALVES
    calves on a leg press
    standing calf raises
    calves in hack squat
    seating calf raises
    any calf machine with a good range of motion

    HAMSTRINGS
    seating leg curls
    standing leg curls
    lying leg curls
    stiff leg deadlift
    sumo presses

    QUADS
    squats
    smythe squats
    hack squat
    leg press

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8itup View Post
    I used to use a log book but the Iphone works fine "as long as I email my log to myself a few times a week" I just got lazy.

    Upside I went back through a lot of DC info last night and picked up some things I was doing wrong.

    Also, liked this as a mem jogger to pick 3 lifts for rotation:

    CHEST
    incline smythe
    decline smythe
    hammer strength press (incline and decline)
    other good machine press
    incline barbell
    decline barbell
    incline dumbbell press
    flat dumbbell press
    decline dumbbell press

    SHOULDERS
    smythe presses to front
    smythe presses to back of head
    hammer strength press
    other good machine press
    barbell press to front
    barbell press to back of head
    dumbbell shoulder press

    TRICEPS
    close grip bench in smythe
    reverse grip bench in smythe
    skull crushers
    dips (in upright position)

    BACK WIDTH
    rack chins to front
    rack chins to back of head
    reverse grip rack chins (close grip)
    assisted pullups
    hammer strength "pulldown" machines
    other good "pulldown" machines
    pull downs to front
    pull downs to back of head

    BACK THICKNESS
    deadlift
    rack deadlift
    T-bar rows
    smythe rows
    barbell rows

    BICEPS
    barbell curls
    alternate dumbbell curls
    barbell preacher curls
    hammer strength machine curls
    other good machine curls
    cable curls
    incline db curls
    close grip ez-bar preacher curls
    standing medium grip ez-bar curls

    FOREARMS
    hammer curls (alternated)
    pinwheel curls (alternated)
    reverse grip one arm cable curls

    CALVES
    calves on a leg press
    standing calf raises
    calves in hack squat
    seating calf raises
    any calf machine with a good range of motion

    HAMSTRINGS
    seating leg curls
    standing leg curls
    lying leg curls
    stiff leg deadlift
    sumo presses

    QUADS
    squats
    smythe squats
    hack squat
    leg press

    Good stuff!

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    Good list. Throw in step-ups for hamstrings. The higher the step, the greater the recruitment of the hamstrings. One of the best exercises you can do for them.

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    thanks for your input guys..

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    bought myself some 1.25lbs olympic plates for the movements I'm really struggling on weight wise, used them fir the first time yesterday on a couple of movements and I think they're gonna work out just fine. anyone else ever try this to help push past sticking points? sometimes 5lbs on a BB movement is too much....

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    Yep, I have 1.25 lb plates and use them all the time for upper body movements.

    It's called microloading and it's a great way to progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyMuscle View Post
    Yep, I have 1.25 lb plates and use them all the time for upper body movements.

    It's called microloading and it's a great way to progress.
    whenever I'm talking to a DC newb I always stress the importance of progression. I have no problem with a 2.5lbs increase or even a 1.25lbs increase as long as I advance. That 1.25lbs increase is going to add up if you keep on going with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic Brunicardi View Post
    I LOVE DC - just started up on it for the second time a few weeks ago. This is the sh*t!
    Future...is it possible to incorporate strongman events into DC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEmmet View Post
    DAY A RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP
    BACK WIDTH 12-20 RP 30 sec goal Stretching 60 sec goal:
    Wide-Grip Pulldowns Behind The Neck
    CHEST 12-20 RP
    Smith Machine Incline Barbell Press
    SHOULDERS 12-20 RP
    Seated Dumbbell Press
    TRICEPS 12-20 RP
    Close-Grip Bench Press
    BACK THICKNESS 6-9 + 12
    Reverse Grip Bent-Over Rows

    ABS (Straight Sets) Exercise Ball Crunch - Hands Overhead
    DAY B RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP Stretching
    BICEPS 15-20 RP 30 sec goal 60 sec goal
    Incline Dumbbell Curl
    FOREARMS
    Reverse Barbell Preacher Curls
    CALVES 12-20 RP
    Standing Calf Raises
    HAMSTRINGS 15-20 RP
    Lying Leg Curls
    QUADS 6-9 + 12
    Barbell Squat

    ABS (Straight Sets) Barbell Side Bend
    DAY C RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP Stretching
    BACK WIDTH 12-20 RP 30 sec goal 60 sec goal
    Regular Pull Ups Or Chins
    CHEST 12-20 RP
    Barbell Bench Press - Medium Grip
    SHOULDERS 12-20 RP
    Upright Barbell Row
    TRICEPS 12-20 RP
    Lying-Supine Two-Arm Dumbbell Triceps Extension
    BACK THICKNESS 6-9 + 12
    T-Bar Row

    ABS (Straight Sets) Flat Bench Lying Leg Raise
    DAY D RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP Stretching
    BICEPS 15-20 RP 30 sec goal 60 sec goal
    Barbell Curl
    FOREARMS
    Seated Dumbbell Palms-Down Wrist Curl
    CALVES
    leg press calf press
    HAMSTRINGS 15-20 RP
    Seated Leg Curl
    QUADS 9-12 + 20
    Leg Press

    ABS (Straight Sets) Crunches
    DAY E RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP Stretching
    BACK WIDTH 12-20 RP 30 sec goal 60 sec goal
    Underhand Cable Pulldowns
    CHEST 12-20 RP
    Incline Dumbbell Flyes
    SHOULDERS 12-20 RP
    Smith Machine Overhead Shoulder Press
    TRICEPS 12-20 RP
    Dip Machine
    BACK THICKNESS 6-9 + 12
    Deadlifts

    ABS (Straight Sets) Knee / Hip Raise On Parallel Bars
    DAY F RP Set Warm Up Sets Rest Pause Sets
    To Beat 10-12 6-8 4-6 1st 2nd 3rd Static Hold Total RP Stretching
    QUADS 6-9 +12 30 sec goal 60 sec goal
    Hack Squat
    BICEPS 15-20 RP
    Preacher Curl
    FOREARMS
    Reverse Cable Curl
    CALVES
    Seated Calf Raise
    HAMSTRINGS 15-20 RP
    Smith Machine Stiff Legged Deadlift

    ABS (Straight Sets) Oblique Crunches

    Thank you for sharing! Your information was very helpful to me.

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    Good list. Throw in step-ups for hamstrings.



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    hello friends,

    im thinking of using this routine for my first cycle and i have a couple of Q's regarding:
    im currently cutting and plan to use this routine for my first cycle like i said, but after i cut and before that i plan to take around 4 weeks to regain some strength and what not, im wondering if it will be okay to start this routine right off the bat or should i use another routine for those 4 weeks? I have read that someone else did something similar to this and took a different routine between their cut and this routine.

    also i keep reading that one should use a 5-8 second negative on all the exercises for this routine, but from watching all of the dc videos i have not seen one person do this including dante himself lol, is this to be used only for the rest pause sets or was he just exaggerating and making a point to concentrate on the negative?

    so its supposed to be 4 weeks goin hard then 2 weeks of taking it "easy," i have read that dante didn't really do a normal deload but i think it would be a good idea to once i get to that point; what do you guys do during those 2 weeks?

    guess thats all i have to ask for now bros, thanks in advance!
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    I would use the four weeks to play around with the program and become acclimated to it. Learn the scheme, the stretches, etc.

    The negative should be controlled so as to be able to reverse the rep without a problem.

    The blast is based on how your progressing. When the progression halts time to cruise. During that two weeks, or longer, switch exercises up, play with rest periods, do straight sets with crazy reps, whatever you feel based on how you need to recover for the next blast. IMHO.

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    question for you guys:

    have you ever done deads using a trap bar? I have some back problems and whenever I do any type of lifting in front of my body like a regular deadlift my back bothers me alot. With the trap bar the movement will be more "linear" so I think I can do these without any torque on my lower back. I never really considered it but the place I work out at just got a trap bar.

    Let me know what you think.

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    Use what you can. if it hurts don't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-dog View Post
    question for you guys:

    have you ever done deads using a trap bar? I have some back problems and whenever I do any type of lifting in front of my body like a regular deadlift my back bothers me alot. With the trap bar the movement will be more "linear" so I think I can do these without any torque on my lower back. I never really considered it but the place I work out at just got a trap bar.

    Let me know what you think.
    Trap has it advantages and disadvantages. It will decrease the possibility for injuries. But if the bar is not place properly, then it can serve for as a hammy movements than a back thickness exercise.

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    cool thanks for the responses. I used to work in a shop as a die repairman and that meant lifting alot of heavy things in really awkward ways, my lower back has been trashed for years. I've tried doing rack deads in the past but once I get to a certain point the actual pain outweighs the benefits of the movement IMHO. I've learned to work around it for the most part.

    I actually saw a video of layne norton doing a deadlift with a trap bar a couple of years ago and I wondered if that would work for me. All of a sudden my gym got one.....I have no idea why and that got the old gears turning in my mind again. Next time rack deads come up in my rotation I'll give these a go and let you guys know how it goes (I've been trying to work racks in again over the last few weeks so this is the perfect time to give these a go).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn "Future" Bellon View Post
    Use what you can. if it hurts don't do it.
    the simple truth. try stuff and see what you can do.

    I stand by these guys 100% / PM me with questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    the simple truth. try stuff and see what you can do.
    that's usually my mantra actually, I will usually tell someone if they ask to do exactly that. The reason I asked is cause I have honestly only seen Layne Norton do deads with a trap bar, it seemed to make sense.

    I'm one of those guys who can give a great response to a question from someone else but for some reason when it comes to my own personal training I have a hard time making some calls...I don't know why but even with some things that seem elementary I have a hard time making the call.

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    Hey everyone, new memebr here at RX.

    However, I am an active and older member over at IntenseMuscle.com, which if you didn't know IS the home of DC training. If anyone want's to look througha log or even follow my training, a big portion of my training journal which I have kept over there for years is dedicated to DC, as it is the only way I trained for a long while. Here's a direct link in case anyone is interested:

    http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=40039

    This particular journal starts in the Spring of 2010, and I still update it almost daily.


    Other than that, I am glad to be here at RX, and happy to help whenever DC related questions arise in this thread. Just another person contributing to the good thread we already got going here. Hello all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-dog View Post
    whenever I'm talking to a DC newb I always stress the importance of progression. I have no problem with a 2.5lbs increase or even a 1.25lbs increase as long as I advance. That 1.25lbs increase is going to add up if you keep on going with it.
    I always felt this way too but the DC description which I always use indicates otherwise:

    "If you find yourself blasting for weeks on end gaining just a rep here and a pound there, I think that is a waste of time--the gains will be coming too slow. Somewhat rapid increases are what we are striving for. If you really put your mind to it you can make rapid strength increases on any exercise and you can make those 2 rep or 5lb (at least) jumps for a lengthy amount of time."

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    I have a question about statics.

    "Then all out with 375 for 8 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 2-4 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 1-3 reps to absolute total failure (then a 20-30 second static hold)"

    How do you guys really do this static hold? I mean when I go to "absolute total failure" on say bench press, there is just NO WAY I can hold the the weight up for 20-30 seconds! Am I misunderstanding what a static hold actually is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggSuckingLeech View Post
    I have a question about statics.

    "Then all out with 375 for 8 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 2-4 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 1-3 reps to absolute total failure (then a 20-30 second static hold)"

    How do you guys really do this static hold? I mean when I go to "absolute total failure" on say bench press, there is just NO WAY I can hold the the weight up for 20-30 seconds! Am I misunderstanding what a static hold actually is?
    It is possible but without a doubt have a good spotter with you, I'd consider DC one of the most effective methods ESPECIALLY for strength/size. My only issue was i think i jumped the gun too soon on DC, the extreme stretches are BRUTAL. It takes a lot of the notion "if it doesn't feel right, then stop" like mentioned above. Thing is, it still hurts! xD I am without a doubt returning to DC training after another year or so. Love all the principles, I have actually made rest/pause a staple in my training because like Dante says, it's just so damn effective. It takes a lot of gritting teeth and noise sometimes but is worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggSuckingLeech View Post
    I always felt this way too but the DC description which I always use indicates otherwise:

    "If you find yourself blasting for weeks on end gaining just a rep here and a pound there, I think that is a waste of time--the gains will be coming too slow. Somewhat rapid increases are what we are striving for. If you really put your mind to it you can make rapid strength increases on any exercise and you can make those 2 rep or 5lb (at least) jumps for a lengthy amount of time."
    I know this is an old post but I just saw it. I still do the same thing I always did, if I add 1.25lbs or 2.5lbs I'm fine with it. I think things have to be assessed on an individual basis. I'm not at a point in my life where I'm trying to get to 250lbs or anything like that I train these days for my own personal satisfaction and enjoyement. As long as I progress I'm fine with it.

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