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    Quote Originally Posted by a-dog View Post
    question for you guys:

    have you ever done deads using a trap bar? I have some back problems and whenever I do any type of lifting in front of my body like a regular deadlift my back bothers me alot. With the trap bar the movement will be more "linear" so I think I can do these without any torque on my lower back. I never really considered it but the place I work out at just got a trap bar.

    Let me know what you think.
    Trap has it advantages and disadvantages. It will decrease the possibility for injuries. But if the bar is not place properly, then it can serve for as a hammy movements than a back thickness exercise.

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    cool thanks for the responses. I used to work in a shop as a die repairman and that meant lifting alot of heavy things in really awkward ways, my lower back has been trashed for years. I've tried doing rack deads in the past but once I get to a certain point the actual pain outweighs the benefits of the movement IMHO. I've learned to work around it for the most part.

    I actually saw a video of layne norton doing a deadlift with a trap bar a couple of years ago and I wondered if that would work for me. All of a sudden my gym got one.....I have no idea why and that got the old gears turning in my mind again. Next time rack deads come up in my rotation I'll give these a go and let you guys know how it goes (I've been trying to work racks in again over the last few weeks so this is the perfect time to give these a go).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn "Future" Bellon View Post
    Use what you can. if it hurts don't do it.
    the simple truth. try stuff and see what you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    the simple truth. try stuff and see what you can do.
    that's usually my mantra actually, I will usually tell someone if they ask to do exactly that. The reason I asked is cause I have honestly only seen Layne Norton do deads with a trap bar, it seemed to make sense.

    I'm one of those guys who can give a great response to a question from someone else but for some reason when it comes to my own personal training I have a hard time making some calls...I don't know why but even with some things that seem elementary I have a hard time making the call.

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    Hey everyone, new memebr here at RX.

    However, I am an active and older member over at IntenseMuscle.com, which if you didn't know IS the home of DC training. If anyone want's to look througha log or even follow my training, a big portion of my training journal which I have kept over there for years is dedicated to DC, as it is the only way I trained for a long while. Here's a direct link in case anyone is interested:

    http://www.intensemuscle.com/showthread.php?t=40039

    This particular journal starts in the Spring of 2010, and I still update it almost daily.


    Other than that, I am glad to be here at RX, and happy to help whenever DC related questions arise in this thread. Just another person contributing to the good thread we already got going here. Hello all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-dog View Post
    whenever I'm talking to a DC newb I always stress the importance of progression. I have no problem with a 2.5lbs increase or even a 1.25lbs increase as long as I advance. That 1.25lbs increase is going to add up if you keep on going with it.
    I always felt this way too but the DC description which I always use indicates otherwise:

    "If you find yourself blasting for weeks on end gaining just a rep here and a pound there, I think that is a waste of time--the gains will be coming too slow. Somewhat rapid increases are what we are striving for. If you really put your mind to it you can make rapid strength increases on any exercise and you can make those 2 rep or 5lb (at least) jumps for a lengthy amount of time."

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    I have a question about statics.

    "Then all out with 375 for 8 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 2-4 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 1-3 reps to absolute total failure (then a 20-30 second static hold)"

    How do you guys really do this static hold? I mean when I go to "absolute total failure" on say bench press, there is just NO WAY I can hold the the weight up for 20-30 seconds! Am I misunderstanding what a static hold actually is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggSuckingLeech View Post
    I have a question about statics.

    "Then all out with 375 for 8 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 2-4 reps to total absolute failure (then 12-15 deep breaths) 375 for 1-3 reps to absolute total failure (then a 20-30 second static hold)"

    How do you guys really do this static hold? I mean when I go to "absolute total failure" on say bench press, there is just NO WAY I can hold the the weight up for 20-30 seconds! Am I misunderstanding what a static hold actually is?
    It is possible but without a doubt have a good spotter with you, I'd consider DC one of the most effective methods ESPECIALLY for strength/size. My only issue was i think i jumped the gun too soon on DC, the extreme stretches are BRUTAL. It takes a lot of the notion "if it doesn't feel right, then stop" like mentioned above. Thing is, it still hurts! xD I am without a doubt returning to DC training after another year or so. Love all the principles, I have actually made rest/pause a staple in my training because like Dante says, it's just so damn effective. It takes a lot of gritting teeth and noise sometimes but is worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggSuckingLeech View Post
    I always felt this way too but the DC description which I always use indicates otherwise:

    "If you find yourself blasting for weeks on end gaining just a rep here and a pound there, I think that is a waste of time--the gains will be coming too slow. Somewhat rapid increases are what we are striving for. If you really put your mind to it you can make rapid strength increases on any exercise and you can make those 2 rep or 5lb (at least) jumps for a lengthy amount of time."
    I know this is an old post but I just saw it. I still do the same thing I always did, if I add 1.25lbs or 2.5lbs I'm fine with it. I think things have to be assessed on an individual basis. I'm not at a point in my life where I'm trying to get to 250lbs or anything like that I train these days for my own personal satisfaction and enjoyement. As long as I progress I'm fine with it.

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    going to give this a shot!

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    ^ cool. It's an awesome training program. Highly recommend it to those who are serious

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    Well really great training I think you can build up some serious mass. It looks hard workouts, but everything can be done with good motivation.

    Cheers and Good Luck.

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