What drugs do figure athletes use?

[Mufasa]

I am at the point where I really do not tell people what to do anymore. I simply listen to what it is they want to do and advise them on the best way to do it safely and effectively. I personally do not think any drugs are necessary for figure. But then again some light anavar and maybe primo can do wonders for a woman's physique. But it never stops at anavar unfortunately.

I like this approach, SS!


Mufasa

[Angela123]

The "Winning Look"

(This is NOT meant to suggest in any form WHATSOEVER that Meriza uses AA'S. It's meant merely to show the winning look in Figure).



Mufasa

with the new national level criteria, meriza's look could be too much. meriza looks great but even in the pro ranks, she sometimes get knocked down in points.

and showing a pic of a woman who looks as if she has never worked out compared to a pic of an IFBB pro is silly lol. also to compare a photo of a pro close to contest condition to a pic of a woman who is just average is another silly thing!

the average woman would definitly not need aas to achieve a stage look. she just needs to start lifting weights and wait for her muscles to mature and develop. cardio and diet would get her bodyfat in check, tho she doesnt look bad, i dont see lots of cellulite or pudge around her ass. she just has wide hips (which is her bone structure, u cant change that) in comparison to her upper body.

[Angela123]

Let me run this by you, ladies. I'd like your thoughts.

Many trainers, (especially those who train Figure Competitors on the regional and national level), will tell you that AAS's are used to overcome an EXTREMELY difficult delimma (faced by both FBB's and Figure competitors):

Overcoming the need to lose fat stored often in the hips, buttocks and lower extremities with the need to put on upper body mass. (That coveted wide shoulders/V-taper).

The pic I've posted illustrates it clearly.

While this trainee may place in a contest at the Local High School...a national level contest (or even a regional one) would be out of the question.


Thoughts?




Mufasa

and actually her pic is not an example of a extremely difficult situation where aas and anti e's r needed. my booty is crazy ba dunk a dunk and is much much fuller, it is where all my fat is stored, and ive dieted and competed in show in my past without aas and anti e's.

[Mufasa]

C'mon, guys!

It wasn't a COMPARISON; it was an ILLUSTRATION.

I don't have real good pics of an off-season National Level competitor stuggling with the same problem.

(I'm sure they are out there; I just don't have them).

The question that came up in the discussion was: "Why would figure competitors feel the need to use AA's"?


Anyhoo!

Great discussion!



Mufasa

[Mufasa]

and actually her pic is not an example of a extremely difficult situation where aas and anti e's r needed. my booty is crazy ba dunk a dunk and is much much fuller, it is where all my fat is stored, and ive dieted and competed in show in my past without aas and anti e's.

I've seen some amazing transformations by you, O!

You are a great example!


Mufasa

[Angela123]

I've seen some amazing transformations by you, O!

You are a great example!


Mufasa

thank you.

C'mon, guys!

It wasn't a COMPARISON; it was an ILLUSTRATION.

I don't have real good pics of an off-season National Level competitor stuggling with the same problem.

(I'm sure they are out there; I just don't have them).

The question that came up in the discussion was: "Why would figure competitors feel the need to use AA's"?


Anyhoo!

Great discussion!

Mufasa

ohh..plenty of offseason pix r out there..question is..do any of the women on this board want to post them up lol.

anywho...i think in the past more figure competitors felt the need to use aas bc figure had a different look then, but im hoping with the new criteria of figure, that women will not feel the need to use aas. this was a big part of the new criteria, they want a more marketable look for mainstream population and they want to get away from women using aas.

also...it seems so many people just dont want to wait lol. they want to do their first national show their first year of competing lol. or they pick up a weight for the first time in their life and they are determined to compete in 10 months.

also, many women listen to the wrong men. they need to not listen to men who do not know what they are doing! shit...just because a guy is half your size does not mean you do half of what they are doing. figure women taking test...crazy.

figure is in the same organization as bb and fbb...so many people assume they need to go to the lengths and extremes that fbb and bb do in order to compete in figure. but that is not the case. figure women should not be doing similar cycles that fbb use.

[Mufasa]

Makes a lot of sense, O!


Mufasa

[Mufasa]

thank you.




ohh..plenty of offseason pix r out there..question is..do any of the women on this board want to post them up lol.

anywho...i think in the past more figure competitors felt the need to use aas bc figure had a different look then, but im hoping with the new criteria of figure, that women will not feel the need to use aas. this was a big part of the new criteria, they want a more marketable look for mainstream population and they want to get away from women using aas.

also...it seems so many people just dont want to wait lol. they want to do their first national show their first year of competing lol. or they pick up a weight for the first time in their life and they are determined to compete in 10 months.

also, many women listen to the wrong men. they need to not listen to men who do not know what they are doing! shit...just because a guy is half your size does not mean you do half of what they are doing. figure women taking test...crazy.

figure is in the same organization as bb and fbb...so many people assume they need to go to the lengths and extremes that fbb and bb do in order to compete in figure. but that is not the case. figure women should not be doing similar cycles that fbb use.

I can't find it now, O...but somewhere someone had posted an early National Figure line-up and put it beside one of the 80's/Early 90's FBB line ups (I remember it had Anga Langer and Cory in it).


The early 2000's figure line up was larger and more ripped!

(I have to see if I can find that pic).



Mufasa

[GirlyMuscle]

I can't find it now, O...but somewhere someone had posted an early National Figure line-up and put it beside one of the 80's/Early 90's FBB line ups (I remember it had Anga Langer and Cory in it).


The early 2000's figure line up was larger and more ripped!

(I have to see if I can find that pic).



Mufasa

Isn't that why they came out with the bikini class?

[Mufasa]

Isn't that why they came out with the bikini class?

..and $$$$$...!


Mufasa

[Suzanne]

with the current look they are after, i dont really see why you would need AS. clen and anti estrogens would be enough.

totally agree

i don't think thy need clen or anti-e's either

people are too much in a rush to go from never been in a gym to the stage i don't get it
It takes time to build muscle
Proper nutrition and training are enough for comp prep

[lil mama]

Ah Ondrea...Ur such a sweetie and your so right...it does take time and we cant hurry the process in due time your body will respond with proper diet and nutrition mayb not as fast as we would like it too but we as women should always educate ourselves and be realistic as to what we put into our bodies and what the consequences might b if we choose to do so...it will always b up to that person and what route he or she chooses to take but whatever it may be, make sure you learn everything all the in's and outs. Much love to you Ondrea my Lil angel.

thank you.




ohh..plenty of offseason pix r out there..question is..do any of the women on this board want to post them up lol.

anywho...i think in the past more figure competitors felt the need to use aas bc figure had a different look then, but im hoping with the new criteria of figure, that women will not feel the need to use aas. this was a big part of the new criteria, they want a more marketable look for mainstream population and they want to get away from women using aas.

also...it seems so many people just dont want to wait lol. they want to do their first national show their first year of competing lol. or they pick up a weight for the first time in their life and they are determined to compete in 10 months.

also, many women listen to the wrong men. they need to not listen to men who do not know what they are doing! shit...just because a guy is half your size does not mean you do half of what they are doing. figure women taking test...crazy.

figure is in the same organization as bb and fbb...so many people assume they need to go to the lengths and extremes that fbb and bb do in order to compete in figure. but that is not the case. figure women should not be doing similar cycles that fbb use.

[tammyp]

i think alot of girls rush into a show....it takes longer than a couple months training to get a nice V taper and the look of a figure girl. its not just abs and boobs! i think a good year of solid hard training, at least....but thats MHO>

[tammyp]

as a npc judge as well..i see alot of girls tiny tiny on top and wide hips and thick legs. the V is not ^!

[Mufasa]

as a npc judge as well..i see alot of girls tiny tiny on top and wide hips and thick legs. the V is not ^!

And this is at both the regional AND national level T?


I hope it didn't appear that I was saying one has to do drugs to be succesful in Figure. I was merely pointing out the reasons that are often given.

Time and hard work ARE the key; but we tend to be a VERY impatient society.


Mufasa