Muscle Maturity???

[alebleu]

Help me understand the debate on why younger body builders require more muscle maturity to win the big shows? Sergio was 26, Arnold 23 and Haney 24, so when did this become the issue? Or did these body builders have it?

[MRT]

It became an issue when old bodybuilders said it became an issue

[red barraca]

It became an issue when old bodybuilders said it became an issue

100%agreed

[IF I TOOK ROIDS I'D BE MR OLYMPIA]

muscle maturity is a JOKE...... perhaps the biggest joke in bodybuilding



muscle maturity = OLD MAN SKIN OVER MUSCLES

[red barraca]

ya its one of the things they knock phil heath about muscle maturity.horseshit,seems bodybuilders who say this are the ones getting close to 40.....hah.

[przechuy]

No,it is not a joke....




And it was not an issue in arnold years etc,because by this time bbuilders where nowhere near the conditioning that current bbuilders present on stage.And better conditioning allows us to see more details etc (actually we cann see almost muscle fibres through skin),and allowed also to create the term "muscle maturity".

I do not know how to descrtibe it properly in english ,but i also see it on myself.Size is not increasing a lot for me now as i am almost satisfied with my body,but somehow with every year those muscles that i already have look better and better.

[Mouse]

It's a nonsense buzz phrase just like "quality muscle". Muscle is muscle. If you need more muscle maturity it simply means you need more muscle or more definition. Older bodybuilders might have more "muscle maturity" because they've been training longer and have (gasp) more muscle than when they were younger.

[Mighty]

I'm really curious about this issue too. Can anyone post a couple pics to teach us what muscle maturity is? It'd be greatly appreciated

[esplendido]

Size and quality do not always go hand in hand. Everyone knows it takes years to build quality muscle. With the same conditioning, a bodybuilder will look better year after year because the muscle fiber becomes more hypertrophied with less external water surrounding it. It gets that 'grainy' look that younger muscle of similar size lacks. The evidence is there. Just look at Arnold in his first couple of O wins when he weighed the same as the '75 O. You can see the depth of muscle maturity in Pumping Iron both when he's straight-arm flexing his biceps after concentration curls and in the photo shoot he does in the movie.

[greuceanu]

muscle fiber becomes more hypertrophied with less external water surrounding it. Just look at Arnold in his first couple of O wins when he weighed the same as the '75 O.

Huh? That's just a matter of losing water, what does have to do with 'maturity'? And Arnold was leaner and drier in the later years, he learned how to prepare better for a contest.

On the other hand, i know old cattle have harder to chew meat than veals, maybe there are some changes in density.

[Nick Paladino]

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[BK]

What is muscle maturity? Bodybuilders tend to associate muscle maturity with achieving a tough and serrated appearance at low body fat percentages. This visual effect is likely to occur only after proper motor skills are developed and muscle adapts to intense training demands. Some trainees obtain the look faster than others, but genetic anomalies set aside, the phenomenon is most often realized after many years of conditioning muscles to progressive overloads. Subsequent changes in collagen, within muscle and skin, may play major roles.

Some fitness enthusiasts connect muscle maturity to changes in neuromuscular coordination. When beginners first start bodybuilding, muscles quiver under loads due to a lack of properly developed motor control. In time, consistent rehearsal using proper form leads to less involvement from antagonist and supportive muscles. After years of resistance training, muscular bodybuilders develop a capacity to execute movements with maximum intensity; while less conditioned individuals have a harder time focusing efforts. Consistent and progressive training results in more efficient agonist muscle activation, stronger contractions and greater pumps. This adaptation to exercise eventually allows sudden and dramatic increases in muscle strength, size and definition. However, this pivotal change in a bodybuilder’s athletic progression more accurately explains the process of muscle memory – not maturity.

[Wheels]

Only thing I know is there is a distinct difference in the way a muscle looks on someone who is older than someone is younger. I do not believe it is size that separates the two, but a more dense and 'fibrous' look to the muscles.

[Mike Paladino]

A good example is Dex and Phil at the last Olympia. Phil was just as if not harder than Dex, but Dex's muscles just look different.

[greuceanu]

Only thing I know is there is a distinct difference in the way a muscle looks on someone who is older than someone is younger. I do not believe it is size that separates the two, but a more dense and 'fibrous' look to the muscles.

Can you provide some photos to support your point? And can you exclude the fact that over the years, the person may have learned to prep better? Can you exclude the use of other drug protocols?