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    let us know how it goes if you do do it

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    Why does the bench press % stay the same on DE day stay the same whilst the squat/deadlift are waved? Dave Tate said that the bench stayed the same percentage on DE days in his seminar dvd. I have never understood why.

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    because on DE you use bands and chains which help you to build speed

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    I'm not quite sure I get what you mean. Even with bands and chains the weights are waved in the squat and deadlifts but stay the same on the bench.

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    If found that I can take higher percentages on my squats and still maintain my speed, but with bench it's not the same for me. On bench I don't really go any higher than 50% of my raw 1RM for speed work, but on squats I will do my speed work with only briefs on and I will go up to 60% of my fully equipped 1RM.
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    That cleared it up for me. Thanks. Are squatting briefs really necessary on DE squat day. My hips seem to be hurting more and more everytime I do them. How exactly do squatting briefs work in terms of stopping your hips from getting so beat up?

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    I don't think wearing briefs are necessary for your DE day

    The briefs help to keep your hips tight and warm. I always use my briefs on DE squat workouts to help protect my hips, I used to hold off putting my briefs on for a while in my workouts but lately I have been putting them on early in my workout and I havn't really had any pain in my hips sine I've started doing that.
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    would there be any way that the DE squat and DE bench sessions could be combined to make a DE whole body workout, ie speed squats, speed bench and some light assistance work.
    i really struggle getting to the gym 4 times a week and but really like the westside program.
    i am hoping to get ready for a novices powerlifting comp in june. would there be a better program for a beginner?

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    Thank you for taking the time to do the write up...very interesting...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycenter View Post
    would there be any way that the DE squat and DE bench sessions could be combined to make a DE whole body workout, ie speed squats, speed bench and some light assistance work.
    i really struggle getting to the gym 4 times a week and but really like the westside program.
    i am hoping to get ready for a novices powerlifting comp in june. would there be a better program for a beginner?
    I wouldn't recommend it if you can only go 3 times do DE squat on the lowest box you can get on

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycenter View Post
    would there be any way that the DE squat and DE bench sessions could be combined to make a DE whole body workout, ie speed squats, speed bench and some light assistance work.
    i really struggle getting to the gym 4 times a week and but really like the westside program.
    i am hoping to get ready for a novices powerlifting comp in june. would there be a better program for a beginner?


    I use DE(sort-of) and ME days, and I only train 3 times a week. I'm on a 10-day cycle as apposed to the standard 7-day. I don't think this is a bad program for a novice, though for a novice I probably wouldn't suggest some of the more advanced exercises or using bands or chains.
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    You would not want to combine the two days into one DE day. One will effect the other.

    Using bands and chains is a cornerstone of helping a lifter develop speed. They just need to be used correctly for the program to work properly. Most do it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    Box squat 8-12 doubles with 45-65% of 1RM
    Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm a little confused about this part. Does this mean 8-12 sets of 2 repetitions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strikerrjones View Post
    Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm a little confused about this part. Does this mean 8-12 sets of 2 repetitions?
    Bump because I'm a retard and power lifting terminology confuses me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strikerrjones View Post
    Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm a little confused about this part. Does this mean 8-12 sets of 2 repetitions?
    It does indeed but without bands or chain I think this isn't heavy enough

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