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    Default Injury Q & A with Dr. Joe

    Please fire away with any questions you may have regarding training injuries. I've treated exercise related injuries for many years (and have probably personally experienced most of them too...lol).

    Train Hard and Stay Healthy!

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    here is one if I can describe it well enough:

    look down at your extended left arm, poke your right index finger in at the left side of your elbow crease and push hard...that's where I hurt.

    It goes away for a few days and then I aggravate it again doing overhand rowing motions. Neutral grip stuff doesn't seem to bother it.

    At it's worst, the pain radiates across my entire bicep tie in at the elbow.

    I know, I need to rest, but you know I won't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman View Post
    here is one if I can describe it well enough:

    look down at your extended left arm, poke your right index finger in at the left side of your elbow crease and push hard...that's where I hurt.

    It goes away for a few days and then I aggravate it again doing overhand rowing motions. Neutral grip stuff doesn't seem to bother it.

    At it's worst, the pain radiates across my entire bicep tie in at the elbow.

    I know, I need to rest, but you know I won't!
    Sounds like tendinitis (I have the same thing going on for months on my right side). Just like you, I haven't missed a day of training because of it...lol. Best thing to do for tendinitis is to ice it as much as possible during the day. Twenty minutes on/twenty minutes off. You can also utilize some over the counter motrin to help get the inflammation down.

    One thing I do in between sets (if it's aggravating me) is called a transverse friction rub. Find the sore tendon and then rub your finger over it transversely (if tendon runs up and down, you rub side to side...hope that makes sense). Rub it for about 30-60 seconds at a time. It really helps the blood flow to the area.

    Good luck!

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    Thanks, Joe...I figured it was the bicep tendon tie in.

    I need to do the ice thing a lot more than I do.

    Advil knocks it out almost completely, but do not want to get to where I take that all the time!

    What do you think of Baldie's old school remedy: sublingual b-12 and manganese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman View Post
    Thanks, Joe...I figured it was the bicep tendon tie in.

    I need to do the ice thing a lot more than I do.

    Advil knocks it out almost completely, but do not want to get to where I take that all the time!

    What do you think of Baldie's old school remedy: sublingual b-12 and manganese?
    Personally, I've never tried that so I can't say. However, it sounds harmless so you can give it a try if you think it might help.

    I do know that when my tendinitis flairs up bad, the icing makes a world of difference.

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    Add me to the list with this issue. My left arm seems to have gone away but my right is still bothering me. It comes and goes with certain arm movements and I am unable to completely bend my arm. I will try to do more of the ice treatment.

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    Hey Joe

    I currently have a 50%+ partial thickness tear of the Subscapularis tendon.

    I cant get in to see the orthopedic specialist until the 17th December.

    The GP instructed me not to do any exercises that cause pain. Makes sense to me. So chest and shoulder exercises are out. But back exercises and legs etc are fine if I follow his instructions.
    However the Injury management advisor at work has instructed me not to do any rows or back exercises or even squats because they can impact the shoulders.

    So who is correct. The injury management advisor was pretty pissed off when I said I was doing rows etc in the gym. The way I figure it if it's not causing pain during or after the training it's not making it any worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Hey Joe

    I currently have a 50%+ partial thickness tear of the Subscapularis tendon.

    I cant get in to see the orthopedic specialist until the 17th December.

    The GP instructed me not to do any exercises that cause pain. Makes sense to me. So chest and shoulder exercises are out. But back exercises and legs etc are fine if I follow his instructions.
    However the Injury management advisor at work has instructed me not to do any rows or back exercises or even squats because they can impact the shoulders.

    So who is correct. The injury management advisor was pretty pissed off when I said I was doing rows etc in the gym. The way I figure it if it's not causing pain during or after the training it's not making it any worse.
    When it comes to injuries, I usually go by the philosophy of "let pain be your guide". I have had many injuries and have never completely just stopped working out. There's always something you can do. If it doesn't hurt, no reason why you can't do it. I think that maybe your injury management advisor at work might have a different agenda then your doctor. Good luck to you. Hope you heal fast!

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    what the hell is an injury management advisor in layman's terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    When it comes to injuries, I usually go by the philosophy of "let pain be your guide". I have had many injuries and have never completely just stopped working out. There's always something you can do. If it doesn't hurt, no reason why you can't do it. I think that maybe your injury management advisor at work might have a different agenda then your doctor. Good luck to you. Hope you heal fast!

    Thank's. Thats pretty much what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman View Post
    what the hell is an injury management advisor in layman's terms?
    Works for the company I work for. Job is to ensure people recaive and follow treatment for work related injuries and to set up return to work plans. That sort of stuff.

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    Default tendonitis

    I have had the same pain ( I believe it is tennis elbow and golfers elbow combined) in my elbow for the past 6 months. Inner and outer sides. I ended up taking nearly the last 6 months off from training altogether because it was nearly unbearble. I also developed pain in the tendons just obove both knee caps as well. How do I combat it and be able to train for a competition in the masters in October of 2010? I will be 40. I just started back on Test E at 500mg per week and training lightly but intensly. Please help!

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    mine has mostly gone away....no ice or sleeve.

    I attribute it to the fact I upped my fish oil to 6g a day about 5 weeks ago, plus I started taking MSM 2g a day and COQ-10 200mg a day at the same time.

    I definitely did not lay off on the training one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeper123 View Post
    I have had the same pain ( I believe it is tennis elbow and golfers elbow combined) in my elbow for the past 6 months. Inner and outer sides. I ended up taking nearly the last 6 months off from training altogether because it was nearly unbearble. I also developed pain in the tendons just obove both knee caps as well. How do I combat it and be able to train for a competition in the masters in October of 2010? I will be 40. I just started back on Test E at 500mg per week and training lightly but intensly. Please help!
    The fact that you have tendinitis in both the elbow and knees makes me curious as to what you have been doing in regards to training (i.e. types of exercises, amount of weight used, technique on exercises, etc). Can you give me any feedback in this regard?

    In regards to moving forward from this point, you need to workout carefully. As I said earlier in this thread, let pain be your guide. Avoid exercises that cause pain and utilize those that don't. Get in the habit of applying ice often during the day, especially post workout. If bad enough, you may want to seek some therapy. I always found that ultrasound therapy was a big help for tendinitis. Also, ART (active release technique) is very effective. Best of luck to you.

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    HI Doc,

    I pulled my hamstring grappling in January of 2006. felt most of the pain up at the glute area at it's origin. Rested it completely all of 2006.

    In 2007 I was doing Olympic lifting after a very good warm up and felt it tweak, then the pain centered in the belly of the muscle.

    I rested it 3 months and was jumping rope and felt it twaek again and the pain was on the outside of my tibia where it inserts.

    I spent a bunch of my hard earned cash getting it massaged but it never felt deep enough to break up the scar tissue knots I can feel in the muscle.

    Now the pain is pretty constant. I have no insurance and need to try and get this darn thing healed. Other than stretching and self massage I have not done anything due to financial constraints.

    Can I stretch it a bit more? normally I just do 3-5 minutes a day on it. I feel it getting tighter and shorter but the pain makes me hesitant to do anything with it.

    Thanks

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