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    Thanks Joe. You have given me some hope.

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    Don't know if you caught this in my journal Joe, but I apparently have issues with my anterior delts that may be responsible for a lot of my problems. I found out there was a problem quite accidentally. I was leaning on a doorway during a meeting and felt pain at the top of my arm. So I used the doorway to do a little massaging. Discretely of course And to my amazement, pressing on this area released my traps! My ever tight/sore traps! I never felt pain in my anterior delts when exercising or at rest.

    My massage therapist worked on them last Friday. Holy freaking heck was there pain! I've worked on them myself this week and my upper body workouts are showing the benefit.

    My trigger point therapy book indicates trap issues can be referred to the shoulder, but not vice versa. Weird huh? I also wonder now if my forearm/hand pain wasn't at least in part referred pain from the anterior delts.

    My poor massage therapist now has so many upper body areas to work that she can't get to them all. And I can't handle two hours of deep tissue massage My lower body may not get a massage for a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebirdmac View Post
    Don't know if you caught this in my journal Joe, but I apparently have issues with my anterior delts that may be responsible for a lot of my problems. I found out there was a problem quite accidentally. I was leaning on a doorway during a meeting and felt pain at the top of my arm. So I used the doorway to do a little massaging. Discretely of course And to my amazement, pressing on this area released my traps! My ever tight/sore traps! I never felt pain in my anterior delts when exercising or at rest.

    My massage therapist worked on them last Friday. Holy freaking heck was there pain! I've worked on them myself this week and my upper body workouts are showing the benefit.

    My trigger point therapy book indicates trap issues can be referred to the shoulder, but not vice versa. Weird huh? I also wonder now if my forearm/hand pain wasn't at least in part referred pain from the anterior delts.

    My poor massage therapist now has so many upper body areas to work that she can't get to them all. And I can't handle two hours of deep tissue massage My lower body may not get a massage for a year
    Pam, when it comes to the body, nothing surprises me anymore. I've always been amazed how various areas are connected.

    I'm glad you were able to pin point an area to work on that is helping your injuries. Let me know how you make out with your treatment. I hope your trouble resolves quickly so you can get back to feeling 100%.

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    Well, after 2 months of great training sessions and no major pain or I juries, I appear to have a setback.

    I'm self-diagnosing tronchanteric/gluteus medius bursitis. I have the classic pain symptoms for that.

    Crazy how that came about. I almost always have a certain amount of tenderness in the area. I squatted Tuesday with no problem. No problem with any pain Wednesday, although I did have some tightness in the area of the greater trochanter.

    Woke up Thursday feeling fine. But as I was putting on my shoe, seated cross-legged with my femur abducted and my lower leg 90 degrees to the femur, I felt a searing sensation at the greater trochanter. Been hurting ever since. I'm limping around like an old man and shuffling up/down stairs. Getting into/out of my car really hurts! I'm not optimistic I'll be able to squat Sunday.

    Need rest and anti-inflammatories I suppose. Any other suggestions, Joe.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyMuscle View Post
    Well, after 2 months of great training sessions and no major pain or I juries, I appear to have a setback.

    I'm self-diagnosing tronchanteric/gluteus medius bursitis. I have the classic pain symptoms for that.

    Crazy how that came about. I almost always have a certain amount of tenderness in the area. I squatted Tuesday with no problem. No problem with any pain Wednesday, although I did have some tightness in the area of the greater trochanter.

    Woke up Thursday feeling fine. But as I was putting on my shoe, seated cross-legged with my femur abducted and my lower leg 90 degrees to the femur, I felt a searing sensation at the greater trochanter. Been hurting ever since. I'm limping around like an old man and shuffling up/down stairs. Getting into/out of my car really hurts! I'm not optimistic I'll be able to squat Sunday.

    Need rest and anti-inflammatories I suppose. Any other suggestions, Joe.

    Thank you!
    Sorry to hear this. Obviously, without examining the injured area, it's impossible for me to know exactly what the problem is. However, from what you describe, it does sound like a bursitis of the hip joint.

    My first suggestion would be to have it examined. Often when someone comes in to see me with such a problem, I find other aggravating factors that can be corrected and help the injury. For example, I may find a "locked up" S-I joint causing increased stress on the hip. When the S-I joint is corrected, the hip pain will also resolve.

    As far as home therapy, your best bet is the use of moist heat (make sure it's moist), non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, light stretching, and rest. Of course, this doesn't mean you have to take 4 weeks completely off from the gym. You can train all other areas and whatever leg movements you can do without pain (e.g. leg extensions?).

    Hip bursitis is painful and can be quite limiting in regards to activity. Let's hope it is minor and resolves quickly! Let me know how you make out!

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    Joe, what's your opinion on using elbow wraps or braces when doing heavy chest pressing movements or even tricep skull crushers? Lately I've had some tendonitis in my left elbow that has hampered my chest and tricep workouts I've had to work thru the pain with a lower weight. Not sure if elbow braces would protect it as I go heavier or hurt them in the long run.

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    Joe, just wanted to report that my hip bursitis is resolving amazingly fast. I've gone from feeling like a near-cripple 5 days ago to feeling about 75 percent healed. Walking normally again and feel very little pain when climbing stairs.

    NSAIDs, rest and moist heat have done the trick. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinCouch View Post
    Joe, what's your opinion on using elbow wraps or braces when doing heavy chest pressing movements or even tricep skull crushers? Lately I've had some tendonitis in my left elbow that has hampered my chest and tricep workouts I've had to work thru the pain with a lower weight. Not sure if elbow braces would protect it as I go heavier or hurt them in the long run.
    I would suggest wearing something like a neoprene sleeve over the elbows to create some slight pressure on them and also keep the joints warm. The braces may only give a false sense of security, thus leading to possible injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyMuscle View Post
    Joe, just wanted to report that my hip bursitis is resolving amazingly fast. I've gone from feeling like a near-cripple 5 days ago to feeling about 75 percent healed. Walking normally again and feel very little pain when climbing stairs.

    NSAIDs, rest and moist heat have done the trick. Thanks!
    Awesome! Really glad to hear that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    I would suggest wearing something like a neoprene sleeve over the elbows to create some slight pressure on them and also keep the joints warm. The braces may only give a false sense of security, thus leading to possible injury.
    Thanks Joe. I check out Walgreens today to see if they have them.

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    Dr Joe, Paula is afraid to ask I think, but she is having pain just to the left side of the tailbone, just below the pants line. Radiates down the leg some and to the knee a little. I have SI joint problems, which are in the same area, but no pain in the leg and knee, so I don't know if Paula's is the SI joint or something else. Her pain goes away a lot when she exercises or walks, worse after sitting for a while. She says it really is bad when she drives home from work and has to sit in the car for 45 minutes straight. She is on her feet 8-10 hours a day as a dental assistant, and I am sure that doesn't help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman View Post
    Dr Joe, Paula is afraid to ask I think, but she is having pain just to the left side of the tailbone, just below the pants line. Radiates down the leg some and to the knee a little. I have SI joint problems, which are in the same area, but no pain in the leg and knee, so I don't know if Paula's is the SI joint or something else. Her pain goes away a lot when she exercises or walks, worse after sitting for a while. She says it really is bad when she drives home from work and has to sit in the car for 45 minutes straight. She is on her feet 8-10 hours a day as a dental assistant, and I am sure that doesn't help!
    Hey Mike, it sounds like it could be some S-I joint involvement. However, with the pain radiating into the leg, there is most likely some type of nerve entrapment going on. In other words, for pain to radiate down the leg, something has to be putting pressure on a nerve root somewhere between the lumbar spine and the leg. Often times, along with the S-I joint, I find a tight piriformis muscle. Nerve roots can get compressed as they pass by the piriformis, if the muscle is tight.

    She should have the area looked at by a chiro. It's a good idea to get the S-I joint adjusted.

    Here's a little home therapy you can try to loosen up the piriformis (if it is contracted). Have her lay on her stomach. Start applying pressure in some different areas over her left buttocks with your elbow. If you find an area that is really sensitive, slowly increase pressure and hold for a few seconds. You can let Paula know in advance, that it is going to hurt! Work the sore areas a few time with the elbow. After applying pressure, use some wet heat on the area for 20 minutes.

    Go online and also locate some stretches for the piriformis muscle. It's to hard to explain. You are better off going on line so that you can get some illustrations.

    Let me know how you guys make out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    Hey Mike, it sounds like it could be some S-I joint involvement. However, with the pain radiating into the leg, there is most likely some type of nerve entrapment going on. In other words, for pain to radiate down the leg, something has to be putting pressure on a nerve root somewhere between the lumbar spine and the leg. Often times, along with the S-I joint, I find a tight piriformis muscle. Nerve roots can get compressed as they pass by the piriformis, if the muscle is tight.

    She should have the area looked at by a chiro. It's a good idea to get the S-I joint adjusted.

    Here's a little home therapy you can try to loosen up the piriformis (if it is contracted). Have her lay on her stomach. Start applying pressure in some different areas over her left buttocks with your elbow. If you find an area that is really sensitive, slowly increase pressure and hold for a few seconds. You can let Paula know in advance, that it is going to hurt! Work the sore areas a few time with the elbow. After applying pressure, use some wet heat on the area for 20 minutes.

    Go online and also locate some stretches for the piriformis muscle. It's to hard to explain. You are better off going on line so that you can get some illustrations.

    Let me know how you guys make out.
    Thanks a lot Joe! I will try to get her to the chiro that I go to, but she can't get off work, so it will be tough. Definitely will research it some more online and try to do the elbow thing tonight.

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    I've read several opinions of how creatine promotes muscle tears/strains. I have been using creatine off and on for many years-more on than off. Within the last 3 years I have torn my rotator cuff and my groin. Two nights ago I was attempting to up my hack squat poundage and on my last rep(#6) of my last set I pulled my inner quad in an area that was pretty close to where my groin tear was. The groin tear happened 18 months ago and is completely healed and my legs are strong but I seem to be much more prone to injury than I used to be. Granted I am 55 years old and that certainly may have something to do with it. Do you think that taking creatine exacerbates muscle injuries? Also, should I now be training differently at my age to try to avoid injury? I've always tried to push my weight poundage up when I can but it seems like this approach may not work for me any more as far as injuries go. I have a goal of competing nationally when I get to the 60+ age level so I am hesitant to reduce my training intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobr View Post
    I've read several opinions of how creatine promotes muscle tears/strains. I have been using creatine off and on for many years-more on than off. Within the last 3 years I have torn my rotator cuff and my groin. Two nights ago I was attempting to up my hack squat poundage and on my last rep(#6) of my last set I pulled my inner quad in an area that was pretty close to where my groin tear was. The groin tear happened 18 months ago and is completely healed and my legs are strong but I seem to be much more prone to injury than I used to be. Granted I am 55 years old and that certainly may have something to do with it. Do you think that taking creatine exacerbates muscle injuries? Also, should I now be training differently at my age to try to avoid injury? I've always tried to push my weight poundage up when I can but it seems like this approach may not work for me any more as far as injuries go. I have a goal of competing nationally when I get to the 60+ age level so I am hesitant to reduce my training intensity.
    There's nothing, from a physiological perspective, as to creatine causing muscle tears. I think the association may be that when people use creatine, they are also trying to squeeze out those extra couple of reps (as well as working with a little heavier weight). Creatine has been shown to be effective in getting that extra rep or two, especially in the 4-6 rep range. Pushing extra hard and heavier often results in injury.

    In regards to training, I know everyone on this board has different philosophies. Here's mine: If your body can handle heavy training, then keep training heavy. Others may argue, but I believe it is the most effective way for building size and mass.

    If heavy training is resulting in injuries, then it is time to re-think how you train. Listen to your body. There are many effective ways to train with lighter weights. For example, "time under tension" is often discussed on this forum. Slowing the rep speed down so that lighter weight feels heavier.

    You want to train in a manner that will work for you. You still have 5 years to go until you are able to compete in the 60+ division. Therefore you want results but you also want to be able to stay injury free so that you can continue to make progress.

    Stay healthy and good luck!

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    Thanks, Joe. I'm still not sure how I will approach my training. I have a feeling that it may become painfully obvious(pun intended) at some point. I guess I will stay with the creatine.

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    Z noticed that the left side of my middle back was more developed, or at least pumped, that the other side. Didn't feel like a pulled muscle, so I am thinking an imbalance in legs/hips that is causing stress factors in that area? I wear orthotics, however they didn't look at relative femur length, hip girdle, nothing...just took mold of my feet. What if I need a shim? Joe, if you have any input here...a good sports related P.T. to measure and assess? Chiros around here are of the 20 min. in and out variety, nothing cutting edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post

    Z noticed that the left side of my middle back was more developed, or at least pumped, that the other side. Didn't feel like a pulled muscle, so I am thinking an imbalance in legs/hips that is causing stress factors in that area? I wear orthotics, however they didn't look at relative femur length, hip girdle, nothing...just took mold of my feet. What if I need a shim? Joe, if you have any input here...a good sports related P.T. to measure and assess? Chiros around here are of the 20 min. in and out variety, nothing cutting edge.
    Without taking a look, it is a little difficult to assess the situation. However, I can tell you that I have seen over developed sides of the back quite often. It can be the result of an anatomically short leg. That is a permanent condition that can't be changed and would require something like a heel lift to level out.

    However, more times it is the result of a pelvic unleveling. I will also use a heel lift on the patient in this case, however only on a temporary basis (until I can get the pelvis to level off).

    My former training partner (the one that I have mentioned with all of the aches & pains) had a very similar situation. I put a lift in his shoe and a lot of his discomfort went away. We are currently working on his pelvis so that we can take the lift out eventually.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.

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    thanks joe, I will look for someone locally to help. I look forward to getting together with you soon, so I can have an expert evaluate me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    thanks joe, I will look for someone locally to help. I look forward to getting together with you soon, so I can have an expert evaluate me.
    Matt, my chiro had me use a lift in my left show because of my unbalanced pelvic area and I had to wear it for about 5 weeks (if I recall) until hips lined up with treatments. Now I wear orthodics on both feet. Never thought about lats being over or underdeveloped on one side because of the imbalance of your hips. My chiro is NOT a BB so he wouldn't have thought of that. Good chit Joe!!!

    I have heard about improper blood and oxygen getting to the area will inhibit muscle activation and growth. That's why I get deep tissue and active release massages as often as I can afford to....

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    Joe,

    I notice that when I bench in the 80% 1RM range that my left shoulder is extremely unstable. By this I mean the attachment of the rear delt, triceps area at the humerus. This occurs during the negative/loading portion of the bench. The pain starts rear delt and goes into tricep and biceps brachii as the load increases. Once I push/unload the bar, no pain. I have been diagnosed with a torn labrum and I tore the biceps/biceps brachii several years ago. Once this pain sets in, it compromises my strength on flyes, same pain. I don't seem to have nearly the issues with incline bench. Ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    Joe,

    I notice that when I bench in the 80% 1RM range that my left shoulder is extremely unstable. By this I mean the attachment of the rear delt, triceps area at the humerus. This occurs during the negative/loading portion of the bench. The pain starts rear delt and goes into tricep and biceps brachii as the load increases. Once I push/unload the bar, no pain. I have been diagnosed with a torn labrum and I tore the biceps/biceps brachii several years ago. Once this pain sets in, it compromises my strength on flyes, same pain. I don't seem to have nearly the issues with incline bench. Ideas?
    It is most likely the result of the labral tear. The shoulder is a very unstable joint. The labrum actually helps create some stability for the shoulder. With it torn, the joint is even more unstable then it already is. As the result of the tear, your rear delts, tricep, etc. is probably being over utilized to help support the joint. Thus, resulting in pain. Therefore, I would be careful, because if you are creating undue stress on those muscles you are increasing the chance of injuring them.

    Do you know how badly the labrum is torn? My buddy had surgery on his labrum a couple of years ago because he actually had a 360 degree tear of the labrum. Doctor said it was the first time he ever saw that. Usually it is only partially torn.

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    No idea. Thanks.

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    Joe,
    This is a copy of a post I had actually sent to Steve. Was wondering if you might have any other suggestions.



    On a side note....the glute/ham pain I was experiencing was actually a sciatic? nerve problelm. Went to a chiro for the first time yesterday at the suggestion of someone at the gym after I told him the pain was moving around in my leg too. The doc showed me the x rays of my spinal column! Looked CRAZY!..... he said it is what he calls the "bodybuilder's question mark". Damn thing took about a 1/2 an inch turn to the right and then back in the lower back area.He said after 35 years of lifting heavy it really wasn't unexpected, if you lift that long all the compression over the years is going to have some effect.......said he could treat and it should resolve.Looks like regular chiro trips are now an official part of
    my training regimen!


    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterschamp View Post
    Joe,
    This is a copy of a post I had actually sent to Steve. Was wondering if you might have any other suggestions.



    On a side note....the glute/ham pain I was experiencing was actually a sciatic? nerve problelm. Went to a chiro for the first time yesterday at the suggestion of someone at the gym after I told him the pain was moving around in my leg too. The doc showed me the x rays of my spinal column! Looked CRAZY!..... he said it is what he calls the "bodybuilder's question mark". Damn thing took about a 1/2 an inch turn to the right and then back in the lower back area.He said after 35 years of lifting heavy it really wasn't unexpected, if you lift that long all the compression over the years is going to have some effect.......said he could treat and it should resolve.Looks like regular chiro trips are now an official part of
    my training regimen!


    Keith
    Well, never heard of the "bodybuilder's question mark"..lol, however all of us beat our spines up by training heavy over the years. Regular chiropractic care will be a big benefit to your training. I know it has helped me over the years stay injury free. Let me know how you make out.

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    Joe, thought I would throw out some facts/observations/and open up for listening.....

    Its been a short 13 weeks since my surgery to re attach my left pec to the humerous bone. My thread in here has cronicled most of my healing. I am avoiding any wide pressing and doing close grip Hammer incline presses, olympic bar punches, high rep pec deck, high rep incline flies, high rep flat bench flies, light pull overs, high rep cable work. Weakness, no pain, and I have my ROM back.

    I am healed. However I have a half a golf ball sized ball of tissue dead center of the pec. There was NO tear there. Doc says its dried blood and will disolve....really?? The ball gives me the visual dreaded "pec tear dimple". I must really pose carefully to hide this defect.

    75 days 'till show time.

    Ideas??


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    A tremendous recovery for being only 13 weeks post-op. Your avatar picture speaks a 1,000 words. Is you question related to how to rid yourself of the blood mass in your pec or how to train your pecs at this point? Just wasn't sure what you were asking.

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    Joe...I would like to diminish the dried blood mass in short order. I have iced, moist heat and daily massaged. What might be helping a bit is that my upper pec work is taking effect....I do some pec work daily. Press one day, flies next, pull overs next.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldiewonkanobi View Post
    Joe...I would like to diminish the dried blood mass in short order. I have iced, moist heat and daily massaged. What might be helping a bit is that my upper pec work is taking effect....I do some pec work daily. Press one day, flies next, pull overs next.

    Thoughts?

    Baldie
    Sounds like you have it covered. The only thing that I would be doing, in addition to what you listed, is hitting the area with ultrasound therapy. If you know a therapist who will do it for you, get it done.

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    I am in my 40s and have been training for 25 years. For the past 5 years I constantly tear muscles. Both biceps are visibly a mess from tears; my quad has a quarter sized hole from a tear; I tore my triceps off the bone, and have an ongoing hamstring tear.
    I was treated by a leading pro sports surgeon, who was nonjudgmental and very cool about trt, but he could only suggest that aas as a possible cause. Another doc (works with athletes) guessed high cortisol. My cortisol levels are slightly above the normal range. I took 11oxo (adrenosterone) for awhile and no change.

    While I still train hard, I am very careful with form (never bounce weights and have a very controlled range of motion). So, I really don’t think it is form or from trying to lift heavy. I don’t use any crazy weights anymore. I can still do 20 plus reps with 315 on squats, for example, but train regularly with 225 or 275 max, and stop when I do 315 at 8-10. I once pulled my quad squatting 185! I take a week off every six to eight months, and train a body part once per week.

    Every other month I tear a muscle, sometimes real small, other times enough to avoid training that muscle for a month or more. Sometimes I feel like my quads will tear walking up stairs, no joke. My biceps tighten up from routine activities including brushing my hair, again, no joke, It is fuck'd up. I take a multivitamin, D3, omega 3, 200mg/wk trt dose.
    My question: have you ever heard of constant muscle tears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.BB View Post
    I am in my 40s and have been training for 25 years. For the past 5 years I constantly tear muscles. Both biceps are visibly a mess from tears; my quad has a quarter sized hole from a tear; I tore my triceps off the bone, and have an ongoing hamstring tear.
    I was treated by a leading pro sports surgeon, who was nonjudgmental and very cool about trt, but he could only suggest that aas as a possible cause. Another doc (works with athletes) guessed high cortisol. My cortisol levels are slightly above the normal range. I took 11oxo (adrenosterone) for awhile and no change.

    While I still train hard, I am very careful with form (never bounce weights and have a very controlled range of motion). So, I really donít think it is form or from trying to lift heavy. I donít use any crazy weights anymore. I can still do 20 plus reps with 315 on squats, for example, but train regularly with 225 or 275 max, and stop when I do 315 at 8-10. I once pulled my quad squatting 185! I take a week off every six to eight months, and train a body part once per week.

    Every other month I tear a muscle, sometimes real small, other times enough to avoid training that muscle for a month or more. Sometimes I feel like my quads will tear walking up stairs, no joke. My biceps tighten up from routine activities including brushing my hair, again, no joke, It is fuck'd up. I take a multivitamin, D3, omega 3, 200mg/wk trt dose.
    My question: have you ever heard of constant muscle tears?
    Honestly, I have no idea why this would be happening to you. If you are having trouble with ADL's (activities of daily living) such as brushing your hair and walking up stairs, then you should visit your PCP and explain to him your problem. He/she might be able to run some test to try to figure this whole thing out. It certainly doesn't sound like a normal situation and should be further investigated. Sorry I can't be of any further help.

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    ^^^
    Thanks for the reply.

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    ok here goes what will probably be a lame attempt at describing a symptom I have had for probably the past 3+ years and never really asked anyone about it. I basically feel like the left trapezius is always tight and in a spasm. It's worse when I lift back and it feels like it's always there. When I take a break from lifting it eases up but without fail, when I lift again, it's back. It nags me.

    I basically don't know what to do about it. I don't know it's a nerve issue of some kind or if it's damage. I don't know if it's my desk job sitting at a computer all day at work. Either way, I'm at a totally loss if there is anything I can do about it. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.BB View Post
    ^^^
    Thanks for the reply.
    FWIW. I'm 55 now. I trained for 28 years injury free. I trained hard and heavy and never worried much about form. I went AAS free for about 12 years in my 40's then decided to get back on to do some real shows. About a year back on(age 51) I tore my rotator cuff. Then about 2 years later I tore my groin. On the rotator cuff I was doing singles on flat bench and rationalized that I just overloaded my shoulder. When I tore my groin I was doing sets of 10 at 315 on the free squat. I had about 5 sets behind me when it tore. There was no rhyme or reason for this other than age. Now I train very differently. My focus went from as heavy as possible to as strict as possible and have been relatively injury free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EggSuckingLeech View Post
    ok here goes what will probably be a lame attempt at describing a symptom I have had for probably the past 3+ years and never really asked anyone about it. I basically feel like the left trapezius is always tight and in a spasm. It's worse when I lift back and it feels like it's always there. When I take a break from lifting it eases up but without fail, when I lift again, it's back. It nags me.

    I basically don't know what to do about it. I don't know it's a nerve issue of some kind or if it's damage. I don't know if it's my desk job sitting at a computer all day at work. Either way, I'm at a totally loss if there is anything I can do about it. Thoughts?
    Sounds like you have built up some soft tissue adhesions in that area. I would guess that if you look at your posture, that shoulder is probably sitting up higher than the other. Once adhesions are built up for a substantial period of time (which it sounds like in your case), you need to see someone who knows how to release them. Your best bet is finding an ART (active release technique) practitioner in your area. Until the adhesions are released, the pain and tightness is going to continue on an on/off basis. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    Sounds like you have built up some soft tissue adhesions in that area. I would guess that if you look at your posture, that shoulder is probably sitting up higher than the other.
    That is correct actually. If I just stand there relaxed, this shoulder is in fact higher than the other. Do these adhesions cause pain? I might have to turn to Google a bit. Thanks very much for the feedback.

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    so I looked this up a little bit - thanks again. Do you know if this is something that is actually "diagnosable"? I mean how would a doctor determine if this is what I have and is it worthwhile trying to see a doctor about?

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