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03-20-2010, 02:06 AM #16
im a few eeeks in using them, i take 3, 3x day, early aft, pre and post workout, the added pumps have been long lasting, and its a great peice of mind ive got those nutrients in me working on gains
Confucius say...
A ripped guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still ripped.
A fat guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still fat.
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03-30-2010, 01:21 PM #17
will grear give me any sort of stomach upsets or gas ?
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03-30-2010, 07:22 PM #18
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03-31-2010, 06:55 PM #19
Great stuff. Very helpful when dieting. Positive nitrogen balance = PRICELESS
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08-31-2010, 02:06 PM #20
Interesting. Would you mind answering a couple basic science questions?
1) So you are saying you split an amino acid molecule in half or into its subatomic structures? If I am understanding this right (sorry, the info given is limited) you are creating carbon (glucose, ketones or both) and waste product ammonia intentionally? For what purpose? Unless your copy is meant in another manner you have made sugar/usable fat and toxic waste so I am sure I am not catching your meaning.
2) What are the ratiod uses of amino acids? From what I have read it appears to simply be another amino acid 2200 type product. Which is just fully hydrolyzed whey and has an NNU of about 18 % (the part used) and negative waste of about 82% (toilet trash and cytotoxins). I am sure you have corrected this accounting for enzyme alterations in a conditional environments so please do not think I am bagging on the product. There just is not much science to use for equations so I ask.
3) You state for the highest NNU you do this. Based upon the description it cannot exceed 18% out of 100% NNU possible.
Thank you for your time and looking forward to your reply Lad. Thanks
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09-03-2010, 07:46 PM #21
^^^^ bump for response
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09-03-2010, 08:17 PM #22
I believe that when mentioning "splitting" he is referring to chains of proteins. In a similar manner to predigested proteins where the actual long chains of amino acids, depending on the protein, are broken down from their original form so that they are better utilized by the body.
So, with question #1 matter of waste that is created from this process is entirely inaccurate. In fact no where in the original post is the word half even mentioned.
and for #2, and #3 the entire basis for the latter question is based on the guess that your #2 assumption is correct. Basically your assuming something and than making another question based off of that assumption. I would let him respond first before you ask further on something your not sure about.
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09-03-2010, 09:22 PM #23
I pm'd need2 about this comparison ( to humapro which ALR is obviously making) a few months ago and his response was very interesting and informative. It would be nice to see what his response is to this, since ALR is basically calling him out. I love GEAR and think humapro is good too, they both serve a purpose but humapro has so many rules and restrictions to its use where as gear u can jus add it in,and reap the benefits. Not worrying about things competing with each other and only using products from the same company and such.
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09-03-2010, 11:18 PM #24
My apology Need2, not directed at you. Actually asking your take on some pretty basic chemistry before the 2 kids who live for drama jumped in so now I am stuck and apologize in advance.
BTW Breezy, HumaPro can be taken with anything anytime and it will dramatically improve the NNU of the meal. Most want the how to get the best from a product info, not can I eat anything and hope for the best. As an example, if you ate 4oz of lean beef with 5 tabs of HumaPro you get an inproved NNU:NC ratio of 13.91g:19.14g so you get more Net Nitrogen Utilization than had you eaten the same amount of beef and a decrease in Nitrogenic catabolites. That is quite an increase in anabolism vs catabolism. So there are no rules, just best approachs. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I always give people credit for being so much more intellegent and there are always a couple that bring me back to reality. So, just for you I will go explain nutrient partitioning in the HUmaPro info (THank you on the real, I assumed it was common knowledge) so everyone can realize that they can take HumaPro with anything and improve the meals utilization, up-take, partitioning toward muscle and away from fat as well as leave less waste in the toilet. Guess I should have asked you two if you knew what 99:1 anabolic ratio meant in regard to growth, recovery and fat loss. So plan on lots of questions in the future! You two are now my go-to guys for what needs to be explained better...thanks! If you two get it, EVERYONE will. (Come on now, that last one was almost funny...cracked me up!)
(Okay, sorry again Need2)
Basically Gear is a remake of an old idea with inadequate amounts of anything to do anything except its 2 key factors...digestive enzymes that were popular in the early 90s that increased protein hydrolysis (digestion) to some extent but did nothing about the waste, utilization, lipolitic effect, repartioning or toxins.
1) 3 caps contains 2925mg of amino acids. Just over 60% are EAAs and not in a human ratio so at least half waste, and less is utilized. (Getting a bottle to test for actual NNU and content to be sure)
2) The human body cannot orally abosorb IGF-1 after 4-5 months of age
3) It takes 3g of Bromalain per day to show any increase in protein digestion
4) Aminogen is claimed to increase protein hydrolisis up to 250%. That means out of 100g of whey you now could utilize 40g...if you ingest 4g of Aminogen leaving a NNU:NC ratio of 40:60 and 60 grams in the toilet. Unfortunately you would need to eat half the bottle to get that 40g....but the good news is that Aminogen creates awesome pumps!
5) Plasma protein: Plasma proteins are proteins found in the blood plasma the clear, protein-rich fluid which is left behind when platelets red blood cells, and white blood cells are removed from the blood. These proteins play a number of important roles in the human body, and levels of plasma proteins are sometimes evaluated in a laboratory analysis to gather information about a patient's general health and specific health issues which a patient may be experiencing. Plasma proteins make up around 7% of the total blood volume with levels which can fluctuate at times. If its human plasma proteins its broken down in the GI like any other protein. Plasma must be IV to go systemic in origin form....ad the proteins that are not free form all compete with each other...but eventually work it out either as muscle, fat or...
You asked!
This is all the ingredients and their amounts:
Per capsule:
Super plasma protein: 250 mgs
Hydrolized Caseinate aminos: 100 mgs
Fraction complex: 100mgs
BCAA's: 525 mgs
Aminogen and Bromalain: 50 mgs
So 200 caps
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09-03-2010, 11:40 PM #25
Oh I get it Author, I really do. Only problem is nowhere on any of the humapro threads does say u can take it with anything! Every one of them says it can't be take with other proteins (except CO). It doesn't say to take it this way for maximum effect it just says take it 25 min before u consume any other proteins. I do get it and understand there is always a best most effective way to use something but there are times its just not practical. Like I said I like humapro probably used 10 tubs or so. Its a great product maybe u should just be a little clearer, let people know the way u recommend taking it but also let them know the benefits and enhancing effects if they do happen to take it with their meal. That's really all I was saying. Look both You and need2 make great products, let's just get the most out of everything. We're all here trying to better ourselves.
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09-03-2010, 11:51 PM #26
Author Humapro really is a protein replacement, gear seems to be a supplement. So in actuality u could use them together. Gear can be added to ur meal and supplement or add some protein and you can use humapro as ur meal w/fats etc other times as u choose. So really its not a replacement for ur product just another way to try to make us,better. I hope u didn't think I was putting down ur product but know with some clarification it should be easier to see that now.
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09-04-2010, 12:02 PM #27
Breezy, posts and e mails always fail to express fully an intent. I truly appreciate your comment. I am a hard core scientist and too often think like one. The point you made is golden! I am supposed to be a genius according to my grades and deeds yet YOU pointed out something I never even considered I should have. Thank you! (So who is the bright boy now?) I REALLY appreciate that. Please let me send you a bottle of HumaPro on me to say thanks. Send Laina a PM with your addy and info. It will go out Tuesday and hopefully make it to you by Friday. I have some writing to do today and may even ask you to read it to be certain I get the point across in the manner I should have, if you do not mind?
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09-04-2010, 12:05 PM #28
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09-04-2010, 12:07 PM #29
Breezy, please check your e-mail late today like evening please. Give me your feed back if you wouldn't mind. I have a lot of writing to do!
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09-04-2010, 12:56 PM #30
No problem Author, I really do hope you don't think I was in any way putting down humapro, in actuality I love it used quite a few tubs,and my diet right now has been great with it. With the new info u have given me it may even make if better. I appreciate ur comments and I'd love to discuss it more if u'd like. I live in the Dallas area at the moment. I look forward to ur email later.
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