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    Bob clearly favors the AMI athletes over all others. He also tows the company line way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Colescott View Post
    Stepping forward to raise an opinion is not consiidered a wise move when you are in a subjective sport in which the people running the sport hold your income entirely in their hands. They can END YOU easily on little more than a whim.
    Which is exactly why we need an athletes rep that the pros can speak to knowing they will remain. The rep should be an intermediary and a layer of protection beween the athletes and any potential repurcussions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    Bob clearly favors the AMI athletes over all others. He also tows the company line way too much.
    This may have a lot to do with the fact that Flex Magazine (owned by AMI) is one of their two big sponsors (bodybuilding.com being the other) so they have access to them as well as a desire to please the people paying the bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsGuns View Post
    I have a question...do the competitors vote for these reps?
    Because I think the competitors would pick someone in the know.
    I'm not sure how it went down with Bob, but I know Shawn was the first, and he used to post on his website forum how he got to be the rep, by going around to several pros, getting their signatures - essentially signing a petition for him to be the rep.
    This was also when Wayne Demilla was still running the IFBB, who Shawn never got along with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    Bob clearly favors the AMI athletes over all others. He also tows the company line way too much.
    That is the key here. Bob will go out of his way to defend those that are part of the Weider/AMI family.. but if they are not he bashes them. Prime example is with Wolfe, he always talked negatively about Wolfe.. or didn't give him much props.. as soon as he signed with AMI and came on PBW he was his best friend.

    Can't be a rep with biased ties and contracts with different parts of the organizations that represent certain athletes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastrep View Post
    That is the key here. Bob will go out of his way to defend those that are part of the Weider/AMI family.. but if they are not he bashes them. Prime example is with Wolfe, he always talked negatively about Wolfe.. or didn't give him much props.. as soon as he signed with AMI and came on PBW he was his best friend.

    Can't be a rep with biased ties and contracts with different parts of the organizations that represent certain athletes.
    Exactly. And Bob never misses an opportunity to make a grapefruit joke about Kai.
    And to this day he still defends Jay's 07 Olympia victory.

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    The athlete's rep should have no ties except to the athlete's.
    Anything else would be a conflict of interest, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huge285 View Post
    The athlete's rep is not a UNION DELEGATE for the athletes. He's merely a messenger meant to take the ideas and concerns of the athletes and bring it back to the powers that be so that it may be discussed and voted on. In that sense, BOB is doing a fine job. After all, I don't see anyone else voicing an interest in holding the position. Shawn Ray resigned years ago (probably because he wasn't making any money). If BOB was given more powers to actually push agendas, I'm sure more would get done. For now, the IFBB is happy with having the athletes rep be just that-- the voice of the IFBB athletes. If no one comes to BOB and voices their opinions, he has nothing to report.
    agreed, I never understood all of the Bob Chick hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Colescott View Post
    Not a paid position? Not directly. Does it lead credibility to his job on Pro Bodybuilding Weekly? Are athletes less likely to turn down a request to be on the show when askled by an IFBB official? Is it considered when his salary for bodybuilding.com is reviewed? Does it affect how many MCing gigs he gets?

    Significant indirect income.
    I don't believe being the athletes rep has anything to do with his indirect income. In fact I think it's such an insignificant role it has no positive or negative effect. Bob is able to get these sources of income because he's one of the few pro bodybuilders that can string two sentences together and has enough forethought to realize if he's going to make any money from bodybuilding it's not going to be from competing as a pro bodybuilder.
    Athletes rep is a joke position put in place to make it seem like the IFBB and their associated businesses give a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickMan View Post
    I think Bob is a little more interested in furthering his own public face, than actually representing professional bodybuilders.

    The IFBB Athletes Rep should be a full-time, paid position. Not something you do on the side whenever you feel so inclined.
    I agree with this. A vote should be taken from all IFBB pros on who the rep should be with a term not exceeding 2years. Once a person has served, they will not be able to run for election again until their successor has finished the 2 year term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickMan View Post


    The IFBB Athletes Rep should be a full-time, paid position. Not something you do on the side whenever you feel so inclined.

    Hahhahahahaha that's a total crack up. Next you'll be suggesting that you should get paid for competing as a pro like all the other pro athel...........oh forget it.


    Who do you think should appoint and pay this atheletes rep? Maybe all the pro's should chip in $10 (they'd complain to the athletes rep if they had to pay more than $10) and pay someone. Of course the IFBB wouldn't give that individual the time of day. Or maybe the IFBB could appoint someone and give them a pay cheque. Of course that individual would be accused of towing the IFBB line to keep their pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    I never understood all of the Bob Chick hate.
    Cicherillo is selling t-shirts.



    His jackets can be insane, his jokes are often - if not always - corny, but he could definitely write a book on how to make a living in the sport.

    (I heard he gives good advices.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Who do you think should appoint and pay this atheletes rep?
    The IFBB. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
    Hahhahahahaha that's a total crack up. Next you'll be suggesting that you should get paid for competing as a pro like all the other pro athel...........oh forget it.


    Who do you think should appoint and pay this atheletes rep? Maybe all the pro's should chip in $10 (they'd complain to the athletes rep if they had to pay more than $10) and pay someone. Of course the IFBB wouldn't give that individual the time of day. Or maybe the IFBB could appoint someone and give them a pay cheque. Of course that individual would be accused of towing the IFBB line to keep their pay.


    Jeez imagine how much hate Bob would get if he was hired and paid by the IFBB.

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    It seems like only the fans on message boards voice their concerns and disapproval of Bob C. being the athlete's rep, but they're not the athletes.

    As far as Bob not knowing Zack Khan a few years ago... I go to the Iron Man every year and there are always new guys from Europe every year that many people haven't heard of. So I guess Bob should have done a better job a few years ago, before he was the rep, and made a point to keep accurate accounts of each new IFBB pro from all countries in all weight classes so he could represent them in the future.

    Milos being the athlete's rep? He's got a loud voice, but isn't concerned with following due process. He'd rather handle things his way when it comes to conspiracies. And make a conspiracy out of everything while he's at it.

    Bottom line is Bob C. is a good diplomat. The athletes seem satisfied with him so why aren't the message boarders?

    Bob has taken his position in the sport as far as anyone really can. He knows that. What's the point of any more self promotion?

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