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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    Dr. Joe-keep this thread going....please! The last week/days is when we tend to be our own worst enemy! Give us some more nuggets.
    Thanks, Ax. I'm gonna see what I can add. BTW, everyone can feel free to just fire away with any questions/concerns they have as they are coming up on their contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    Thanks, Ax. I'm gonna see what I can add. BTW, everyone can feel free to just fire away with any questions/concerns they have as they are coming up on their contest.
    What is your protocal for diuretic use and application for saturday morning prejudging with saturday evening show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe293 View Post
    What is your protocal for diuretic use and application for saturday morning prejudging with saturday evening show?
    Sorry Joe...never went the diuretic route. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I do some manipulation with my water intake, but only use dandelion root as a natural diuretic during the last 3 days or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axioma View Post
    Thanks for the great thread BTW! Great info, can never get too much GOOD info for that final week/days/hours before show.

    Any suggestions on dealing with cortisol related to adrenaline dump? I have really seen some guys fall apart from nerves and their conditioning just disappears! Happened to me in my first show, entered two divisions and I was exhausted more from the adrenal damage that anything. Meditate?
    Mac added a good suppliment with good history. Earlier this week I got a 75 min. deep tissue facia massage and it zapped the cortisol. So much so that I will have another just before I board the plane to Pitt. Then when I get to the hotel a long relaxing dry sauna just before the color goes on. I will walk the City the morning of the show, taker a river cruise and simply...chill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldiewonkanobi View Post
    Mac added a good suppliment with good history. Earlier this week I got a 75 min. deep tissue facia massage and it zapped the cortisol. So much so that I will have another just before I board the plane to Pitt. Then when I get to the hotel a long relaxing dry sauna just before the color goes on. I will walk the City the morning of the show, taker a river cruise and simply...chill.

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    When should HGH be dropped from the program during these final weeks? I've been told 2 weeks, one week and run it rate up to contest day?

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    What kind of routines do you use for Pump Up Back Stage, and what are the supplements you have used most effectively?

    Let me prime the answers with these thoughts:

    Pump up routine - - Don’t pump Legs and Abs
    - Do pump:
    Calves (up on toes x ____), Tris (kick backs x ____, oh exts x ____),
    Chest (pushups wide x _____, pushups narrow x _____, decline pushups x ______)
    Lats (bendover rows x ______)
    Biceps (curls x _____)
    Delts (side laterals x ______, rear laterals x _____, front raises x ___)



    Supplements: Beverly International - Muscle synergy and wine, Beverly International - Uplift, And a candy bar.

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    Great question Vman. You're right about not pumping up the abs and legs. When I was a beginner, I tried to pump up my abs before I went on stage at a show. My abs were in spasm the entire time I was on stage! I also learned many years ago that pumping your legs make them very difficult to flex while on stage. For me, this includes calves.

    In regards to pre-contest supps, I usually use niacin and a 5 hour energy prior to hitting the stage. Seems to work well for me. I've tried a lot of different things over the years, but have been using the above the last couple of years.

    I generally don't go to crazy pumping up before I hit the stage. Some guys start pumping up like an hour before their weight class is called. I tend to wait it out and start pumping up maybe 15-20 minutes before. I don't like to do to much because if I do I sometimes feel fatigued and can't flex as hard on stage.

    I generally pump up by posing, performing rows with tubing, push-ups, and bicep curls. Those few movements tend to blow me up real good. I then carry a towel with me up to the stage. While waiting backstage, I will do some isometrics with the towel.

    I think the main thing is to find, through experience, what works best for YOU. The above is just what I would suggest because it works for me.

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    In the Heavy Muscle radio interview with Ali Amini he said he has his guys take a viagra before prejudging. Is this becoming more prevalent at the national level to improve vascularity?

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    I have never talked to a competitor who has tried viagra. I would definitely want to talk to a few guys before trying it. I get real vascular from using the niacin and 5 hr energy drink. I think I'd be pretty hesitant to try viagra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe293 View Post
    In the Heavy Muscle radio interview with Ali Amini he said he has his guys take a viagra before prejudging. Is this becoming more prevalent at the national level to improve vascularity?
    I know of guy who eats em like candy before hitting the gym...nothing to write home about...I think the vascularity comes with extreme conditioning and a good pre-workout formula. An oldtimer at a recent show was eating powdered gatorade from the container...said that was his trick. Personally, I got enough in that little pouch to worry about the one eyed leviathon waking during the quarter turns..

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedemarco View Post
    I have never talked to a competitor who has tried viagra. I would definitely want to talk to a few guys before trying it. I get real vascular from using the niacin and 5 hr energy drink. I think I'd be pretty hesitant to try viagra.

    Got a show this Saturday so I picked up a 5 hour energy this morning. I'll give it a shot, if nothing else it might help get me through those long ass prejudgings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe293 View Post
    In the Heavy Muscle radio interview with Ali Amini he said he has his guys take a viagra before prejudging. Is this becoming more prevalent at the national level to improve vascularity?
    Not sure I'd want to pump up that muscle - sorry, I could't resist.

    I get a great pump from Plasma Jet from gasperi - BUT that is with a regular diet - not when water is low. So I like Joe's conservative approach.

    For vascularity - Snickers bars work well - not sure about cheese cake but have seen it used, and of course another one that works is a GOO of natural peanut butter, protein powder and Honey - I like pitted dates as well, but you can end up with diarrhea. Like you all say - test what works for you - reeseces peanut butter cups? Peanutbutter jelly on rice cakes?

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    Another One - I actually was told a few years ago by my trainer on stage he said to "Stare at the head Judge & other judges, even smile at them". Sounds crazy to me - thoughts.

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    And another question - once tanned: SHINNY or MATT finish? I don't want to be slippery when trying to pull a Lat Spread -- front & back. thoughts?

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