Precontest cycles....

**JVALDEZ** · 03-03-2009, 01:41 PM

Looking to find out what the most cost effective 16 week precontest cycle would be? and the best(no limit on budget) 16 week precontest?

**esplendido** · 03-03-2009, 01:52 PM

Test cyp (250mg/eod) and tren ace (75mg/eod) first 8 weeks. Switch to test prop (200mg/eod) last 8 weeks. Add Halotestin (40mg/day) last 6 weeks. Add Masteron (100mg/day) last 2 weeks. Drop prop 4 days before show.

No price too high: GH at 4IU/day through cycle

Both cycles: Clenbuterol and Cytomel (T3) throughout (ramp dosages to 120mcg/day clen and 80mcg/day T3). Arimidex at 1/2mg/day throughout.

Dyazide (diuretic) the last 24 hours, 1/2 cap every 4 hours.

**Reloaded** · 03-03-2009, 05:14 PM

ok esplendido, now, for people who arnt millionares......

**mindfcuk** · 03-03-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by esplendido

Test cyp (250mg/eod) and tren ace (75mg/eod) first 8 weeks. Switch to test prop (200mg/eod) last 8 weeks. Add Halotestin (40mg/day) last 6 weeks. Add Masteron (100mg/day) last 2 weeks. Drop prop 4 days before show.

No price too high: GH at 4IU/day through cycle

Both cycles: Clenbuterol and Cytomel (T3) throughout (ramp dosages to 120mcg/day clen and 80mcg/day T3). Arimidex at 1/2mg/day throughout.

Dyazide (diuretic) the last 24 hours, 1/2 cap every 4 hours.

This is a pro precontest cycle, and the most effective, only thing I would knock out is the halo, and use Anavar for 100mgs ed for the last 8 weeks. other than that thats the stack that will have looking like the clear winner!!!

**iusealittle** · 03-03-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by mindfcuk

This is a pro precontest cycle, and the most effective, only thing I would knock out is the halo, and use Anavar for 100mgs ed for the last 8 weeks. other than that thats the stack that will have looking like the clear winner!!!

NO WAY! if your tryin to get hard halo is the way to go not var.

hard stack.....test/tren/mast/halo

my.02

**esplendido** · 03-03-2009, 07:39 PM

My avi is evidence of the success of this cycle.

**JVALDEZ** · 03-03-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by esplendido

my avi is evidence of the success of this cycle.

nice,is that w/gh or w/o?

**esplendido** · 03-03-2009, 09:25 PM

4iu/day

**Reloaded** · 03-03-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Reloaded

ok esplendido, now, for people who arnt millionares......

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**Bob Smith Jr.** · 03-03-2009, 09:53 PM

my opinion, save the tren ace for the last 8 weeks, not the first 8 (assume your dieting 16 weeks). Its not really necessary to switch to prop, you can continue to run a long ester throughout as long as your running adex. Halo, I wouldnt run for 6 weeks, more like the last 3 or so. I would run winny the last 8 weeks and drop the masteron. Looks good though and your pic is evidence of its effectiveness!

Originally Posted by esplendido

Test cyp (250mg/eod) and tren ace (75mg/eod) first 8 weeks. Switch to test prop (200mg/eod) last 8 weeks. Add Halotestin (40mg/day) last 6 weeks. Add Masteron (100mg/day) last 2 weeks. Drop prop 4 days before show.

No price too high: GH at 4IU/day through cycle

Both cycles: Clenbuterol and Cytomel (T3) throughout (ramp dosages to 120mcg/day clen and 80mcg/day T3). Arimidex at 1/2mg/day throughout.

Dyazide (diuretic) the last 24 hours, 1/2 cap every 4 hours.

**esplendido** · 03-03-2009, 10:19 PM

Masteron is superior to Winny for hardening. Since Halo is the only oral, 6 weeks at 40mg is plenty safe. The prop is for higher available test, so in some respects, you're increasing the test the last 8 weeks. The tren is run all 16 weeks, not the first 8.

An alternate cycle would be the same test as above, same tren, but no Halo and Masteron. Instead, run winny depot at 100mg/EOD from weeks 9-14, then 100mg/ed weeks 15 and 16. Run anavar at 50mg/day starting week 10 and increase to 100mg/day last 2 weeks.

**indianamonster1986** · 03-03-2009, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by JVALDEZ

Looking to find out what the most cost effective 16 week precontest cycle would be? and the best(no limit on budget) 16 week precontest?

I got a bunch of orals for super super cheap this pre-contest and they are working awesome.

Started them at 8 weeks out because I wanted to wait till I got my scholarship money.

**indianamonster1986** · 03-03-2009, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by esplendido

masteron is superior to winny for hardening. Since halo is the only oral, 6 weeks at 40mg is plenty safe. The prop is for higher available test, so in some respects, you're increasing the test the last 8 weeks. The tren is run all 16 weeks, not the first 8.

an alternate cycle would be the same test as above, same tren, but no halo and masteron. Instead, run winny depot at 100mg/eod from weeks 9-14, then 100mg/ed weeks 15 and 16. Run anavar at 50mg/day starting week 10 and increase to 100mg/day last 2 weeks.

truth!!!!

**BigJD69** · 03-03-2009, 10:37 PM

There ya go, he is def. RIPPED in the avatar pic. Did you run the 4iu til the end? GH bloats me up. Wouldn't it be safer for him to lower the HGH as he gets closer to the show???

**esplendido** · 03-03-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by BigJD69

There ya go, he is def. RIPPED in the avatar pic. Did you run the 4iu til the end? GH bloats me up. Wouldn't it be safer for him to lower the HGH as he gets closer to the show???

Nope. 4IU all the way through. If your diet is spot-on, bloating won't be an issue.