Quads north (in the city) is known for a slightly limp wristed crowd. This probably has to do with the general area. I've never trained there but I've known Dave DeYoung (owner)for 25 years. He and Tommy Malonovich owned the first Quads which was in Thornton Illinois (on the quarry). The Thornton gym moved to Calumet City and has been there for a long time. It is a hardcore gym owned by some non lifter guy that I've met but don't really know. Great gym in a crappy area, they need to move it again. Yes the rates are crazy but I think they are still relying on the reputation Quads had. There was a giant sign back in the day that read "LAND OF THE GIANTS" that hung inside the gym over the mirrors. Quads is also known as the home of the great Ed Coan. Ed is in his mid 40's now and is arguably the greatest powerlifter that ever lived.