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    Default Prohormone/Designer Steroid Q&A.

    I am opening this thread to answer questions specifically about designer steroids and prohormones for those that might be seeking my advice. I have been away for a period of time and would like to kick off my return with some helpful Q&A. I will post answers to questions as often as possible. If you're in need of an immediate answer that cannot wait, please feel free to PM me. I will help you to the best of my ability within reason within any aspect of a cycle. I will do my best to keep up with messages, but if it's not an emergency than I ask you to post the question in this thread.

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    Alright, sounds like a plan...

    Your opinion (I have a few variations/brands of each):

    Superdrol
    Epi
    P-plex
    H-drol

    and I could stack one with Propadrol or Furaguno

    What do you think my next cycle should be? I will be dieting and trying not to lose mass, so I guess the better worded question is, what is the better of my choices for a cutting cycle?


    and yes, Nolva/Clomid will be involved as always.

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    could i get some info on 11-oxo? i'm interested in when the best time to use it would be in a contest prep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformathard View Post
    could i get some info on 11-oxo? i'm interested in when the best time to use it would be in a contest prep?

    check out tuned sports.com 11sterone bible

    sorry to hijack

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabecool View Post
    Alright, sounds like a plan...

    Your opinion (I have a few variations/brands of each):

    Superdrol
    Epi
    P-plex
    H-drol

    and I could stack one with Propadrol or Furaguno

    What do you think my next cycle should be? I will be dieting and trying not to lose mass, so I guess the better worded question is, what is the better of my choices for a cutting cycle?


    and yes, Nolva/Clomid will be involved as always.
    Glad to see you have a proper PCT protocol. Well, considering you're cutting I'm going to guess that you're using the cycle towards the end of the cutting phase? I highly recommend cycling towards the end of the cycle instead of the beginning when using methylated steroids.

    Almost any of the current designers can be used on a cut, as it's the diet that dictates how well you lean out. However, there are some designer steroids that can be considered a better choice as opposed to the other, especially when potency and whether or not you're competing.

    With that said, I've recommended the following protocol for oral/methyl only cycles for some competition diets towards the last 6 weeks. I will add that using a prohormone such as 1-AD or like you've suggested Prop or Fura; which does not harm the liver, and can really be a tremendous help while cutting as you can extend the beginning of the cycle from the start and end with a 5-6 week cycle of a methyl. For a sample, I will provide the last 6 weeks portion of a cycle.

    Designer Steroid + Prohormone:

    • Week1: Fura - 300mg -
    • Week2: Fura - 300mg -
    • Week3: Fura - 300mg - Superdrol - 20mg
    • Week4: Fura - 300mg - Superdrol - 20mg
    • Week5: Fura - 300mg - Superdrol - 20mg
    • Week6: Fura - 300mg - Superdrol - 20mg

    I suggest SD as it has the ability to fill you out, harden you up and dry you out with the possibility of gaining some lean muscle.

    Quote Originally Posted by reformathard View Post
    could i get some info on 11-oxo? i'm interested in when the best time to use it would be in a contest prep?
    Well, this particular prohormone is really effective in the upper amounts of almost a gram. You can gain anti-cortisol effects and anabolic characteristics around 400-500mg. I have personally noticed that 800mg-1g/day is the most effective area to stick with for muscle preservation and lean mass. However, I suggest using 400mg/day for the start of your cut and around 6 weeks out use 800mg-1g/day. I've seen some very good results from cycles that last a total of 12 weeks.

    I would suggest using another compound that isn't too harsh for the last three weeks, if you're up to that.
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    Please feel free to ask anything pertaining to DS/PHs, guys. No question will be unanswered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J2jud View Post
    Please feel free to ask anything pertaining to DS/PHs, guys. No question will be unanswered.
    whats up bro...never used any ph's...what would be a good non methyl cut stack?? could i stack something like 11-oxo and fura?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve56 View Post
    whats up bro...never used any ph's...what would be a good non methyl cut stack?? could i stack something like 11-oxo and fura?

    Dont want to stack nothing my first cycle..But i would also like to know a good cutting cycle...supports and PCT. If its not too much lol...Thankz

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    Ive read somewhere about people running a ' mini-cycle ' ..I guess to explain i mean like superdrol for 3 weeks at 10mg..or 5mg. The explained purpose of this was to reduce sides and make less gains but easily keep them. Any comments on that? Could that work?

    If so...Wat kind of phs can be used? At what doses?

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    Hdrol cycle using the theory above...

    50mg/ 7 days
    75mg/ 9 days
    50mg/ 5 days

    50mg/ 7 days
    75mg/ 9 days
    100mg/ 5 days

    PCT:?
    Supports:?
    Dosage:?

    Is this credible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaMeRoKz View Post
    Hdrol cycle using the theory above...

    50mg/ 7 days
    75mg/ 9 days
    50mg/ 5 days

    50mg/ 7 days
    75mg/ 9 days
    100mg/ 5 days

    PCT:?
    Supports:?
    Dosage:?

    Is this credible?
    Not sure why you are dosing that way, but I would opt for:
    week 1-50mg
    weeks2-3 75mg
    week 4 100mg

    I would take cycle support at the recommended dosage on the bottle,
    for PCT:
    day 1: 30mg nolva
    next 3 weeks, 20mg
    last week, 10mg








    J2Jud,

    Not that I doubt you, but 300mg of fura? Holy crap....it's like 9 of those little bitch 33mg pills I have. I knew it was a weak compound but wow....

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    What do you think of "The one" that was released by AppNut, now available as D-plex from CEL? newer compound with little info, but, your thoughts?

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    What would be better to use during a cycle to keep estrogen and progestine at bay CEL topical Formestane or Nutra Planets bulk powder Formestane?
    I heard that the topical would be better absorbed then the powder version is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottabecool View Post
    Not sure why you are dosing that way, but I would opt for:
    week 1-50mg
    weeks2-3 75mg
    week 4 100mg

    I would take cycle support at the recommended dosage on the bottle,
    for PCT:
    day 1: 30mg nolva
    next 3 weeks, 20mg
    last week, 10mg








    J2Jud,

    Not that I doubt you, but 300mg of fura? Holy crap....it's like 9 of those little bitch 33mg pills I have. I knew it was a weak compound but wow....

    The reason the dosage is like that its because its supposed to be a 3 week cycle, not 4 weeks. My question is ..is this a way to run a 3 week cycle and if it is can gains be made and kept easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaMeRoKz View Post
    The reason the dosage is like that its because its supposed to be a 3 week cycle, not 4 weeks. My question is ..is this a way to run a 3 week cycle and if it is can gains be made and kept easier?
    Why only run it for 3 weeks?

    Either way, don't go up then back down for the 3rd week. You should progress up until PCT.

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