My 2010 Bulk Plan - - trying to get to 240-250lbs!

[Biggie908]

we have same goals

[2011masters]

did you know that sust has prop in it?? eod man eod

yea i know this is old but I just saw the reply.
let me splain ya something. do you know why sust was formulated for and what the "sust" stands for? SUSTained release. it was created so one ester hits after the next. there is no need for ED or EOD, it is a blend for the specific purpose of keeping levels steady. there is NO reason or need for ED or EOD.... just think my man. I used to believe the musclehead gym rat crap about sust being shot eod or ed but then I thought about it, thought about its medical application and realized I was wrong. put some effort into understanding how blends work my man.
peace

[Bryan Hildebrand]

Personally I wouldn't get that heavy. High bodyfat makes it harder to put on muscle. I would stick for 10-12% bodyfat. Just my two cents.

really? do tell. can't wait to hear this.

[s2h]

What up bros? So im trying to figure out my strategy to put on some serious size this year. I will probably take the entire year off competing and stick to getting as big as possible, bringing up my lagging body parts, and staying pretty lean while at it. This is what Im thinking:

About to start:

Weeks 1-14 - - 250mg Test E - EOD
weeks 1-6 - - 75mg Tren Ace EOD

Pct for 6 weeks - - clomid/arimid./ hcg

then start again

weeks 1-16 - - 250mg EOD - - Sustanon or Omnadren
weeks 1-6 - - 75 mg Tren Ace EOD
weeks 1-4 - - 40mg dbol

((maybe throw in NPP since ive heard good things??))

my first time trying tren so I'll see how I react the first cycle then perhaps make adjustments for the second..

what do you guys think?

Im about 205-212 lbs right now with blurry abs. Ive been completely off since October/early November

Lets do this!

my 2 cents 1-4 40 mg d-bol.1-6 300mg test E/cyp 200mg Deca EOD.6-12 300mg test e/cyp 100mg tren a EOD and run 60 mcg of igf -lr3 the 4 on 2 off 4 on w/ 2-4 iu hgh m-f.havnt used npp but heard it's a bettter supp for deca so maybe go that route.

[s2h]

What up bros? So im trying to figure out my strategy to put on some serious size this year. I will probably take the entire year off competing and stick to getting as big as possible, bringing up my lagging body parts, and staying pretty lean while at it. This is what Im thinking:

About to start:

Weeks 1-14 - - 250mg Test E - EOD
weeks 1-6 - - 75mg Tren Ace EOD

Pct for 6 weeks - - clomid/arimid./ hcg

then start again

weeks 1-16 - - 250mg EOD - - Sustanon or Omnadren
weeks 1-6 - - 75 mg Tren Ace EOD
weeks 1-4 - - 40mg dbol

((maybe throw in NPP since ive heard good things??))

my first time trying tren so I'll see how I react the first cycle then perhaps make adjustments for the second..

what do you guys think?

Im about 205-212 lbs right now with blurry abs. Ive been completely off since October/early November

Lets do this!

i would be very suprised if you can make 250 from 205 and stay at 10-12%.good luck but dont over do the drugs,more is not always better.EAT,EAT,EAT!!!!!

[tiramisu]

If you are already 13-14% why do you want to put on 40 pounds, If you manage 5 pounds of real muscle during the cycle that's 35 pounds of fat and water. Probably 25 pounds of fat and that will put you up over 20% bf.

Why do you want to be fat? You are already getting more than a season away from contest shape @ 14%

[data]

If you want to bulk I'd just stay on a gram of testosterone per week, eat about 4kcals per day, and when you want to cut for your show add trenbolone, sweat on the treadmill, and cut your cals down.

[s2h]

If you want to bulk I'd just stay on a gram of testosterone per week, eat about 4kcals per day, and when you want to cut for your show add trenbolone, sweat on the treadmill, and cut your cals down.

ya fuck it ,why make it complicated 300mg test EOD w/ 3 week d-bol kick start and have at it!!!

[Mr Atlas]

If you are already 13-14% why do you want to put on 40 pounds, If you manage 5 pounds of real muscle during the cycle that's 35 pounds of fat and water. Probably 25 pounds of fat and that will put you up over 20% bf.

Why do you want to be fat? You are already getting more than a season away from contest shape @ 14%

I think all that tiramiisu is starting to affect your brain.

[jacshelb]

Also, what do you guys think of running 25 mcg of T3 while on my tren ace and test bulk cycle - - Im thinking it would be good to help me stay lean while adding mass since I dont have GH - - though, Dave says its unnecessary when bulking

I just looked at the date on this post right before I started typing and realize I'm really late to this thread. But, I think that with enough aas and a decent diet you won't have to worry about bf too much. So, I'd save the t3 for later. Does anyone else find they have that threshold where if they take in enough "supplements" they just almost can't put on fat?

I went from around 205 and 12% bf to 245 and 16% bf last year cycling and that was actually a lot more fat than I ever want to put on again to be honest. Though, I can understand how it's appealing just to get that size- especially if, like me, you haven't been very big before. But, now that I'm in pre-contest dieting mode I'm realizing that's an extra 14 lbs of fat on top of "normal" fat I'd have to lose. Makes it tough.

[anabolic fyre]

really? do tell. can't wait to hear this.

x2, lets hear it lol...

[Bob Smith Jr.]

i wouldn't run t3 bro, not really necessary, you'd be wasting money...I'm not a fan of either cycles but if you already got everything for the first one, run it you'll be good. I love tren and it's great for muscle but the thing with tren is it makes it hard for you to gain weight, cuz tren also directly burns fat, but you'll see good gains. To be honest, I think the best offseason combo is test and gh. If you can't afford gh, just run more test. I don't really think you need any 'exotic' compounds in the offseason. Just a lot of test and a lot of food.

[King-Of-Test]

Alot of test, dbol, food and sleep...

[StrongMan.87]

If you are already 13-14% why do you want to put on 40 pounds, If you manage 5 pounds of real muscle during the cycle that's 35 pounds of fat and water. Probably 25 pounds of fat and that will put you up over 20% bf.

Why do you want to be fat? You are already getting more than a season away from contest shape @ 14%

who the hell said I wanted to put on 25lbs of fat bro? I never said that.. and why would that be a "goal".. yes maybe my goal is "implausible" but fuck it im not gonna make shitty goals cause then you end up with shitty gains! and that goes with ANYTHING in life..

and a quick update.. im 3 weeks in my cycle of test and tren and im 225 lbs.. and added a 1/2 inch to my arms.. and am still as lean as I was when I started - especially since im doing jiu jitsu 5 times a week..

but i have been TIRED as hell and LETHARGIC like a mofo this 3rd week... but i'll see if adding a few extra calories will take me to the next 5lbs..

my tren is 75mg EOD test is 250mg EOD..

I went from benching 315 4 weeks ago for ONE rep... to hitting 315 for FOUR REPS 2 days ago... and thats that the test hasnt even hit me yet!!

i LOVE this shit.

[tiramisu]

10 pounds of muscle gain in a year by a serious trainee using aas and consistent training and eating is an excellent accomplishment.

If in your crack addled brain you believe that you can synthesize 40 pounds of muscle in a cycle have at her. Getting back down to 4-5% at greater than 15% at your weight means 20+ weeks of hard dieting. 5 fucking months. Thanks, but no thanks.